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  • ursus arctos
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    You give me too much credit

    Fat fingers before coffee

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  • Evariste Euler Gauss
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    "the Royals" reaction to any denouement after her Seth
    Still not sure whether "Seth" is an autocorrect of a typo-impaired "death" or whether it's some Egyptian mythology-themed way of referring to the grim reaper.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Hopefully she will carp it sharpish.

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  • Hot Pepsi
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post

    But he always will.

    His doting mother is perhaps the richest woman in the world and won't be convinced by anything, least of all a US jury verdict.
    Must be fucking nice.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post

    Money and access to it. He's still got that.
    But he always will.

    His doting mother is perhaps the richest woman in the world and won't be convinced by anything, least of all a US jury verdict.

    Which provides an additional incentive for him to settle, as "the Royals" reaction to any denouement after her Seth would certainly be less favourable to Andrew.

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  • WOM
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post

    The incentives for both parties to settle seem stronger than those for a trial. Agreeing a figure seems to be far more difficult, though. How much money does he actually have with no royal titles, and where are his future earnings? Does he still get something when the Queen dies, purely as a blood descendant? Do his kids have independent incomes and what happens to their titles?
    Her incentive is to be vindicated instead of being pilloried as a liar and a gold digger. Agreeing a figure is the easy part. ($5 million is my guess.) She wants him to say "I did this", and that'll be the tough part.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    A point her lawyer made shortly after Judge Kaplan issued his ruling

    No, she doesn't have to settle, but one shouldn't underestimate how traumatic defence counsel can (and do) make it for victims to pursue their case all the way through trial (not to mention how intrinsically uncertain any verdict in a jury trial is).
    The incentives for both parties to settle seem stronger than those for a trial. Agreeing a figure seems to be far more difficult, though. How much money does he actually have with no royal titles, and where are his future earnings? Does he still get something when the Queen dies, purely as a blood descendant? Do his kids have independent incomes and what happens to their titles?

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  • The Bean Counter
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    An MSN news headline just popped up on my screen just now: "Royal expert says three photos have 'ruined' Prince Andrew"

    I'm no kind of expert, but I would have thought bonking teenage girls with his paedophile mate was what ruined Prince Andrew.

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  • Duncan Gardner
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    Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post
    Not likely. Giuffré would be languishing in a nunnery somewhere long before that happened.
    Sent to Co(n)ventry

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  • Tony C
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    Originally posted by MarkF View Post
    They'll need to rethink the nursery rhyme...

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by WOM View Post
    What 'anything else' are you thinking of?
    Money and access to it. He's still got that.

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  • MarkF
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    They'll need to rethink the nursery rhyme...

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  • Toby Gymshorts
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    Well, things just got interesting for the (apparently not-all-that) sweaty (alleged) nonce.
    Last edited by Toby Gymshorts; 13-01-2022, 22:04.

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  • WOM
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    What 'anything else' are you thinking of?

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    This feels like a major development and seems to have been forced on Brenda, most likely by Charles. But at the end of the day he's lost symbols of power not anything else. Yet.

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  • Amor de Cosmos
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    Not likely. Giuffré would be languishing in a nunnery somewhere long before that happened.

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  • Eggchaser
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    Originally posted by Tony C View Post

    Might this not push him towards the settlement option? By all accounts his decision to continue with the case was to save his name (such as it is) and in his mind the key element of that would be to salvage his reputation with his beloved forces. Now that the forces themselves have officially dumped him there’s not much to fight for in reputational terms.
    In the old days he'd have been packed off to The Tower for an appointment with the headsman, followed by burial in a suitably expensive tomb in some out of the way Chapel.

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  • WOM
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    Thank you, ua.

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  • Hot Pepsi
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    Yes, it is a civil case in Federal court, Giuffré is the plaintiff, Andrew is the defendant.

    As was noted yesterday, he is about to free up approximately USD 16 million by selling a ski chalet in Verbier.

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  • ursus arctos
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    She isn't required to at this stage of the proceedings

    Her prayer for relief is very much boilerplate

    WHEREFORE, Plaintiff respectfully requests judgment against Defendant, awarding compensatory, consequential, exemplary, and punitive damages in an amount to be determined at trial; costs of suit; attorneys’ fees; and such other and further relief as the Court may deem just and proper.
    https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-co...lt-lawsuit.pdf

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  • WOM
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    Has she sought specific damages?

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  • ursus arctos
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    A point her lawyer made shortly after Judge Kaplan issued his ruling

    No, she doesn't have to settle, but one shouldn't underestimate how traumatic defence counsel can (and do) make it for victims to pursue their case all the way through trial (not to mention how intrinsically uncertain any verdict in a jury trial is).

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  • caja-dglh
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    The problem would be that the settlement terms are unlikely to be cash only any more.

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  • Sporting
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    Giuffré doesn't have to settle out of court.

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  • Tony C
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    Might this not push him towards the settlement option? By all accounts his decision to continue with the case was to save his name (such as it is) and in his mind the key element of that would be to salvage his reputation with his beloved forces. Now that the forces themselves have officially dumped him there’s not much to fight for in reputational terms.

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