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    #51
    There are certainly nuances to it - you see folk choose to wear flip-flops for walking around or running shoes and just change at the office. It is all rather silly, though then again I basically where sneakers most days and no one says a word.

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      #52
      What about those kind that have a heel but lace-up? If nothing else, you'd look like you're in a 1930s film and could wear a smart hat and ask people "what's the rumpus?"

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        #53
        Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post
        These, I will concede, look wonderful on some women, but not on me. I am tiny (in almost every way, short, usually slim, very small bone structure, quite delicate features). If I wear something like that I look like I accidentally put on my dad's shoes while getting dressed in the dark. Also, according to my husband, the men's versions of these are still uncomfortable.

        Heels give me slightly more height (I don't wear high ones), and for want of a better word, they go better with my slightly more 'feminine' style.
        That's fair enough, they definitely don't work for everyone or with everything. I'm not graceful in any way and I like a good stomp so they work well for me.

        Comfort-wise it really depends where you get them - I've had some right stinkers before but I saved up for a couple of pairs of Cheaneys a few years back and they're genuinely more comfortable than my slippers or any trainers I've got (I think it's as much the quality of the leather as the fact that by sheer luck the last they use for women's shoes seems a perfect fit for my feet.)

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          #54
          The whole concept of having a dress code - of having the barefaced fucking gall to think you have the moral right to tell adults what they can and can't wear to work is at best anachronistic and at worst downright offensive.
          Not least because if you run a business in the city, you're invariably trusting your staff with millions of pounds of company or your customers' money but not trusting them to know the difference between an appropriate or inappropriate tshirt. Each and every person who tries to enforce a dress code apart from where it's required for safety or identification is a charlatan and a cur and I'll have no time for them.

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            #55
            Now I've got that off my chest, my last gig was smart casual. So shirt with collar, no jeans. I always wore shoe looking trainers because fuck them.
            The last 2 years they went dress down full time, which was nice.
            This latest gig is in insurance so I figured I'd have to wear a fucking suit as insurance is the last bastion holding out against the 19th century. However the IT dept are all off site at a managed office so we wear what we like.
            Stupidly everyone has to keep smart clothes in the office in case we have a meeting in the main place, because god forbid the bosses should have to look upon a polo shirt with their own eyes. So I just refuse to attend any meetings over there.
            I mean seriously. I look ridiculous in a suit. And in the wrong shape for tucking things in. I don't look smart, I feel incredibly self conscious and uncomfortable both physically and mentally. How can that be good for productivity?
            Last edited by hobbes; 08-07-2019, 22:04.

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              #56
              I support your rant.

              Everything that counts as "dressed up" appears to be specifically designed to prevent the wearer from doing any kind of physical labor. That's not a coincidence.

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                #57
                I wear black air max, black skinny jeans and a baggy white T-shirt (sometimes with a black cap), which is exactly the same attire I wore when I was tagging city walls in the mid 90s.

                I work at a Financial Markets brokerage, but as head of design so nobody bats an eyelid.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                  I support your rant.

                  Everything that counts as "dressed up" appears to be specifically designed to prevent the wearer from doing any kind of physical labor. That's not a coincidence.
                  Word. I'd love to get all these tie fetishist into a factory and set them loose on the lathes and bandsaws. Let's see how productive they feel when they're being dragged neck first into the grinding machinery.

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                    #59
                    5-point PPE for me which means helmet, hi-viz clothing (trousers, shirt and jacket), steel toe caps, gloves and safety glasses. Basically giving the impression that we're walking traffic cones. It used to be all over orange but in the last few years our gear has had blue trim added so it doesn't look so bad.

                    I haven't had to buy any clothes for work in years.

                    Edit to add: apart from decent socks with reinforced heels and soles.
                    Last edited by Greenlander; 08-07-2019, 22:34.

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                      #60
                      I believe factory workers did wear ties in the past. They kept it tucked behind their apron or waistcoat.

                      Pretty stupid.
                      Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 08-07-2019, 22:41.

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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Greenlander View Post
                        5-point PPE for me which means helmet, hi-viz clothing (trousers, shirt and jacket), steel toe caps, gloves and safety glasses.
                        Isn't PPE Philosphy, Politics and Economics? Pretty serious gear for sitting a lecture hall all day.

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                          #62
                          Polo shirt, jeans, DMs. (occassionally trainers). We have dress down Friday here, but I dress down every day, and no one ever says anything.

                          Although there's a "who you are and what you do" about the dress code. The factory floor staff have to wear a company provided uniform, and they're not allowed to wear their own stuff, and we're not allowed to wear the uniform. Lots of divide and rule at our place.

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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post

                            Isn't PPE Philosphy, Politics and Economics? Pretty serious gear for sitting a lecture hall all day.
                            Personal Protective Equipment.

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                              #64
                              Ha, I guess if I was sitting in a lecture theatre I could take the hat, gloves and glasses off.

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                                #65
                                Camo board shorts in the summer. Jeans the other 11 months. Print t-shirt or hoodie or dress shirt, depending on whether I'm presenting to a client or not. Nobody really cares what I look like.

                                My boss, however, is an African-American Jehovah's Witness who owns over 70 pocket squares and dresses better on Fridays than I do at weddings. He's long since given up saying things like 'Maybe...you know...maybe kick it up a notch...'.

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                                  #66
                                  If I have to visit a client's office, I have to dress according to their dress code. Since our clients are insurance companies like Toby's, if I were a man I'd have to wear suit and tie. It's a little easier to stretch the rules if you're a woman, so I typically wear black trousers and a nice top (with a blazer in the winter) and black Mary Jane shoes (they're actually Skechers biker shoes, but no one ever notices, especially in the city). I don't do high heels. Ever.



                                  If I have to go into our office, it's business casual, which in our office means no jeans, no halter tops, no shorts. No problem.

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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by David Agnew View Post

                                    Personal Protective Equipment.
                                    The wonderful twitter feed PPE in PPE specialises in photos of people who studied the former (and occasional outliers) wearing the latter.

                                    https://twitter.com/PPEinPPE/status/958360606234628098

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                                      #68
                                      https://twitter.com/PPEinPPE/status/1142878846422867969

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                                        #69
                                        Shirt/Polo, trousers and smart shoes. We have a dress down day every last Friday of the month, and also on sporadic Fridays throughout for charity - again though it's requested that no-one take the piss, so no flip-flops and no beach shorts, etc...

                                        Insurance companies are fun...

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                                          #70
                                          Originally it was smart casual but the previous tech lead is an old-school software engineer (heavy metal t-shirts, jeans) and chewed out upper management one time by saying pretty much the same thing as hobbes did upthread about how it doesn't speak volumes for their trust in the abilities of the people writing software that makes them a lot of money if they don't trust them to dress properly. So since then the team pretty much wear whatever they want. More often than not that means jeans, t-shirts, polo shirts, lumberjack shirts, jumpers and any footwear besides sandals and runners. I still wear black slacks because I find them lighter and more comfortable than jeans but yesterday I wore a Ladytron t-shirt to work and nobody batted an eyelid.

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                                            #71
                                            I worked for a holiday company whose dress code was known internally as "the 3 T's" which stood for Toes, Tums and Tits.
                                            As long as you weren't wearing flip-flops, a crop top, or exposing too much cleavage, anything else was fine.

                                            I recently worked for Honda at their plant in Swindon, where everybody dresses in the same uniform, whether you clean the toilets, are the Chairman, or a sysadmin as pictured here:




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                                              #72
                                              No meaningful dress code in the office - in practice it's a mix of suits, smart casual and jeans and t-shirt. Business attire for external meetings though.

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                                                #73
                                                I work in IT but I work at client sites so it's business casual. I wear a suit though as, oh I don't know why, I think I don't like the idea of business casual. If I'm going to have to look smart then I might as well do it properly. No tie though. Also, I'm not going to go shopping for a new wardrobe for work.

                                                I'm torn on the Honda thing. It's really good that everyone has to wear the same uniform but also a bit weird for roles that don't require specific clothing.

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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                                                  No meaningful dress code in the office - in practice it's a mix of suits, smart casual and jeans and t-shirt. Business attire for external meetings though.
                                                  It was pretty much this where I was until retirement and I was firmly at the jeans and t-shirt end of the spectrum, though I would wear a suit on appropriate occasions. I never got 'dress-down Friday'. If dressing 'down' was appropriate on Fridays, then why not the rest of the week?

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                                                    #75
                                                    It seems to be unspoken at our gaff. Mostly kinda "don't take the piss", but also "sometimes dress up a bit" and "there's sort of a sort-of dress-down Friday ish but only some people do".

                                                    I wear trousers and a shirt, never a tie. But I don't have to, I think. Hard to be sure.

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