The disgraced corrupt racist liar thread:British PM edition

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

It isn't how the Wall Street Journal works and even the New York Post would be embarrassed

surely printing a picture like that of Trump in a New York Newspaper would invalidate your fire insurance?

[Lang Spoon]

I always thought Pearse a disgusting madman who wasted the capabilities of the Citizen Army and its ideals for his twisted churchy Celtic bollocks. And Connolly a fool for backing the hysteric and probably throwing away any chance of Socialist influence in Ireland for at least 50 years post the flagrant martyrdom.

I'm more sympathetic now.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

if no deal, beyond an initial chaos, is more a gradual affair, that's my worry. If the sky doesn't fall in people get used to it.

I don't know how long a modern society can continue to function if its ports collapse, and that might be an automatic thing. France is going to have to treat the UK like Poland treats Belarus, and I don't know how that isn't going to cause utter chaos in Dover.

[Lang Spoon]

Well, I hope so in a terrible way. Gammon Land needs to see what is on the end of its fork.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

This isn't going to work out very well for us either. Virtually everything we export and import goes across the UK. sure we've hired the biggest ferry in the world to go to France, but that's nowhere near enough, and even if it was, it would add a lot of delays. But it is likely unavoidable at this point.

[Lang Spoon]

Medicine and fresh food shortages will be nasty as fuck in Ireland no doubt. Disgusting bigot reality Denying bastards (or cynical as fuck disaster capitalists) that are willing to go to no deal. Especial pox on those coward Tory MPs that know it's madness but still won't do fuck all to stop it for fear of the Brexit Party/constituency membership fuckwits on their right flank.

[Lang Spoon]

A lot of people in Ireland seem fairly blasé thinking deals with Rotterdam and a few French ports are enough to see supply chains unaffected here in the event of no deal. These are (in circles I inhabit) the same types of folk who are Panglossian re the housing market (and also own a fuckin house).

[Hot Pepsi]

If he’s likely to win an election, why is the opposition trying to trigger one?

[ursus arctos]

No one really knows what the likely outcome of a general election will be

[Hot Pepsi]

When would the next election be if one isnt triggered?

[ursus arctos]

Five years after the last one, so May 2022

[Hot Pepsi]

Well, if there’s a NDB, things will go completely to shit by then.

[ooh aah]

If he’s likely to win an election, why is the opposition trying to trigger one?

Well Corbyn is in principle a democrat and loathes the idea of 90k people choosing our PM. Also he performs much better on campaign than he does day to day, partly because the media has to actually report on what he does and says on a campaign rather than simply ignore him whilst giving free oxygen to all his critics. It also gives Labour's huge base something specific to work towards. These two factors contributed to a huge upswing at the last GE, and the assumption is that the same would happen again. I think it will, but whether it will be as significant as last time is a different matter entirely

[Hot Pepsi]

That’s encouraging.

[Snake Plissken]

The problem is that this time he's up against the people who brought you the lies "£350m a week for the NHS" and "Take Back Control". It's going to be a level of bullshit that will make Trump blush.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Also all Boris is going to do whenever asked an awkward question like "why are there no tomatoes in supermarkets any more?" is pull out a little union flag and start singing Land of Hope and Glory and the idiots who've voted for him will lap it up.

[Snake Plissken]

I'm not sure Corbyn should attempt to trigger an election as early as possible. Let's say it worked, and we did get one on October 24th. That is before Brexit Day and Johnson can peddle any lie he wants. Timing it for after October 31st means that either we've crashed out, or Johnson has gone back on the first thing that he said when taking office. (I do quite like the idea of it being around November 8th - the Tories have to break off halfway through to deal with the EU and beg for an extension that it might not get or there are several days where the effects of No Deal will actually start hitting people.)

[Sporting]

Well Corbyn is in principle a democrat and loathes the idea of 90k people choosing our PM. Also he performs much better on campaign than he does day to day, partly because the media has to actually report on what he does and says on a campaign rather than simply ignore him whilst giving free oxygen to all his critics. It also gives Labour's huge base something specific to work towards. These two factors contributed to a huge upswing at the last GE, and the assumption is that the same would happen again. I think it will, but whether it will be as significant as last time is a different matter entirely

I'm not sure that Labour was particularly helped by the media at the last election. Their upturn in fortunes was largely despite, not because of.

[Snake Plissken]

The Representation of the People Act legislates for equal airtime as well as non-biased reporting so the BBC (in particular) was bound to report things equally. The papers aren't.

The fear that I have is that social media advertising is completely unregulated and we're up against a well-oiled machine that doesn't give a shit what lies it pushes out and can do so with impunity and a lot of money.

[Moonlight Shadow]

I'm not sure Corbyn should attempt to trigger an election as early as possible. Let's say it worked, and we did get one on October 24th. That is before Brexit Day and Johnson can peddle any lie he wants. Timing it for after October 31st means that either we've crashed out, or Johnson has gone back on the first thing that he said when taking office. (I do quite like the idea of it being around November 8th - the Tories have to break off halfway through to deal with the EU and beg for an extension that it might not get or there are several days where the effects of No Deal will actually start hitting people.)

It would make sense for Johnson to hold it very shortly after the 31st. He will have delivered Brexit and the effect would still be minimal. It would also help Labour because the whole Remain thing would be then be an irrelevance.

[Nefertiti2]

Prediction from Tubby’s go to guy Simon Wren Lewis

how is Tubby by the way? Anyone in touch?

[Guy Profumo]

Brave, brave, brave Sir Boris...



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49118107

[Nefertiti2]

-also worth a read

[URL]https://twitter.com/tomkibasi/status/1154117498222055424?s=21[/URL]

[beak]

Well, I hope so in a terrible way. Gammon Land needs to see what is on the end of its fork.

Do you think any lesson will be learnt, though? The last time I was on the island I ended up having a long chat with my Hard Brexit Uncle that left me more convinced than ever of the inevitable dolchstoßlegende when it all goes (more) tits up..

[George C.]

Don't like the new thread title though.

An insult to disgraced racist liars everywhere...