The disgraced corrupt racist liar thread:British PM edition

[ursus arctos]

So, his majority is now officially down to one, though that was quite a bit closer than I expected from the polling early in July.

[Guy Profumo]

[URL]https://twitter.com/obornetweets/status/1156923834861268992?s=21[/URL]
Imagine that it was Jeremy Corbyn, not Boris Johnson, who became prime minister last week.

Imagine that he had been put there by 93,000 mainly left-wing Labour members. Imagine he then reshaped the Cabinet to make sure it was filled with personal loyalists, immediately sacking almost every centrist minister and creating an extreme sectarian government.

Suppose that within minutes of kissing the hand of the Queen, Corbyn breached royal protocol by briefing the press about what the monarch had told him in private - and that the pound was in free-fall, hitting a two-year low, as the new prime minister committed himself to investing tens of billions of pounds in extra government spending within days of entering office.

Imagine that he'd just ditched his wife of twenty-six years standing, and the mother of his four children, and installed in Downing Street a 31-year old girlfriend. Dismissed in disgrace

Now, let’s stretch credulity way beyond the breaking point. Imagine that Corbyn’s new home secretary had been forced to resign in disgrace just two years earlier for secret meetings with a foreign government - and that Corbyn knew this, but still appointed her.

And heaven forfend he'd made openly racist statements while visiting Kenya on government business.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Good post that Nef.

It's not his four children though, it's mother of four of his children. There are others out there.

Johnson also took the four bedroom flat and left Javid with the small one despite Javid officially having the larger family.

[Nefertiti2]

[URL]https://twitter.com/obornetweets/status/1156923834861268992?s=21[/URL]
Imagine that it was Jeremy Corbyn, not Boris Johnson, who became prime minister last week.

Imagine that he had been put there by 93,000 mainly left-wing Labour members. Imagine he then reshaped the Cabinet to make sure it was filled with personal loyalists, immediately sacking almost every centrist minister and creating an extreme sectarian government.

Suppose that within minutes of kissing the hand of the Queen, Corbyn breached royal protocol by briefing the press about what the monarch had told him in private - and that the pound was in free-fall, hitting a two-year low, as the new prime minister committed himself to investing tens of billions of pounds in extra government spending within days of entering office.

Imagine that he'd just ditched his wife of twenty-six years standing, and the mother of his four children, and installed in Downing Street a 31-year old girlfriend. Dismissed in disgrace

Now, let’s stretch credulity way beyond the breaking point. Imagine that Corbyn’s new home secretary had been forced to resign in disgrace just two years earlier for secret meetings with a foreign government - and that Corbyn knew this, but still appointed her.

[Guy Profumo]

You're Jacob Rees Mogg aicmfp.

J R-M used the latter in his missive.

[Antepli Ejderha]

And another thing.

It's "MP", not "M.P."

You're Jacob Rees Mogg aicmfp.

[Guy Profumo]

And another thing.

It's "MP", not "M.P."

[Guy Profumo]

Ignore, must read full thread etc.

Read full thread?

Amateur!

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

Ignore, must read full thread etc.

[Guy Profumo]

Scotland doesn't.

[George C.]

Britain already has a feudal monarchy?

[Guy Profumo]

I believe the reversal of decimalisation is next on Mr Rees-Mogg Esq.'s agenda.

I bet he's also the sort of cunt that writes to John and Anne Smith as "Mr and Mrs J Smith".

Followed by the feudal system.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/AdamRamsay/status/1154914011269480448?s=20

[Eggchaser]

Yeah. But maybe that would be for the best in the long-run.

The world has had managed to get by without shillings and crowns and guineas. It can live without pounds.

I believe the reversal of decimalisation is next on Mr Rees-Mogg Esq.'s agenda.

I bet he's also the sort of cunt that writes to John and Anne Smith as "Mr and Mrs J Smith".

[Satchmo Distel]

I could see Johnson trying to get out of the Good Friday Agreement

[Nefertiti2]

this is good on Mogg

https://twitter.com/AnnPettifor/status/1154988653174808576?s=20

[Lang Spoon]

https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1154851577628364800?s=20

That link seems to have gone now. I can guess but.

[Antepli Ejderha]

It means that he expects you all to lie back and think of England

We've been doing that for years anyway, we're the USA' s female poodle to put it politely.

[ursus arctos]

It means that he expects you all to lie back and think of England

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1154851577628364800?s=20

Whatever the fuck that means.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1154851577628364800?s=20

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

But I do not understand what the backstop is for

Doubtless, someone can explain.

But I am not an elected politician.

Least of all the Prime Minister

Who has paid professionals who can explain to him what the backstop is for

Oh well.


Meh.

<shrugs shoulders>

Simply put....... The Good friday agreement ulitmately means that England, Scotland and wales can fuck off and have whatever kind of brexit that they want, But northern ireland has to stay in the customs union to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland, and they need to stay far enough in the single market to allow Northern Ireland's farmers to remain in the Irish all island farm system. (Northern Irish Unionist Farmers are british, but their cattle are Irish, and that's the way they like it). There's loads of other stuff, but they are the two biggest. Now obviously the backstop doesn't kick in if the whole UK remains in the EU customs union, and if they stay in the single market. But even if you were trying to do that, you'd have to pass the backstop anyway. It ultimately means that the more the UK wants to diverge from the EU, the more GB will diverge from NI.

If the tories weren't reliant on the votes of the DUP, they would probably have passed the backstop ages ago, but they can't. Because it would establish that Northern ireland had an entirely different system to the rest of the UK, and make it considerably closer to the republic than the uk in economic terms. It would in essence be a step towards a united ireland. Which it would be. but that's not our fucking fault. It's one of the three conditions that the UK has meet if it wants to leave the EU on terms short of economic war. (the other two being pay what you legally owe, and sort out the status of EU migrants, because we want none of that windrush bollocks) It's not something you get to refuse, It's more one of those situations where You rub the lotion on yourself, or else you get the hose again.

To a certain degree, it doesn't matter what the good friday agreement is about. It is an international agreement between an EU country and a non-EU country, and if the Non-EU country doesn't stick by the agreement, the EU will take serious and prompt action to enforce compliance because you don't want anyone else getting any ideas.

When Boris Johnson says "The EU needs to drop the backstop if it wants to reach an agreement with the uk" what he's actually saying is "We are declaring Economic war on the EU."

[Amor de Cosmos]

The political declaration will then set out a timetable for a Canada-style free trade agreement to be negotiated, with a timeframe of three to five years – a meaningful period for a premiership, a blink of the eye for a generational project such as Brexit.

I wish someone in the UK would interview Chrystia Freeland, who was the chief Canadian negotiator in the EU trade deal and is now Foreign Minister, and ask her what it entailed and how personally draining it was.

[Amor de Cosmos]

I said that?

That looks far too convoluted for this bear of non-existent brain.

No, sorry, it's a quote of a quote from the Guardian piece upthread.

[Hot Pepsi]

Well, it depends.

The Turks would say that they are very strict indeed.

As Flynnie indicates, a first step would be cancelling all of the opt-outs the UK has been granted.

Yeah. But maybe that would be for the best in the long-run.

The world has had managed to get by without shillings and crowns and guineas. It can live without pounds.