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    #26
    The biggest increase in votes in Catalunya has been in traditionally pro-independence areas, such as Girona, Vic and Olot.

    By the way, Aragon isn't quite as conservative as implied upthread.

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      #27
      Originally posted by Sporting View Post
      The biggest increase in votes in Catalunya has been in traditionally pro-independence areas, such as Girona, Vic and Olot.

      By the way, Aragon isn't quite as conservative as implied upthread.
      Fair to say Catalunya's mobilised - up a whopping 18% on 2016, according to the newest turnout figures - should be better news for Sanchez than the PP, but with a 9% rise across the board, one never knows.

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        #28
        So polls close at 7 pm BST - when do we expect results?

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          #29
          As with most European elections, exit polls pretty much on the dot of 7, and live counting immediately on the website at the bottom of page 1.

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            #30
            We are so backward here.

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              #31
              Results are out v quickly in Spain (computers..?) in 2004 we were in IU HQ in Madrid, with free drink and tapas and it was all over far too quickly!

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                #32
                Already have an exit poll:

                Right 166 (PP 71, C's 51, Vox 42, Navarre 2)
                Left 151 (PSOE 107, Podemos 44)
                Nationalist 33 (ERC 13, JxC [Puigdemont's party] 4, Republican Front 4, PNV 6, Bildu 3, Compromís [Valencian] 3, Canarian Coalition 1)

                If that's borne out by other polls and results, another election would be inevitable.

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                  #33
                  Vox at all is pretty horrific, obviously, but Vox at 42...

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                    #34
                    Where did you see this exit poll?

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                      #35
                      I think tho that’s more for vox than previous predictions it is consistent- PSOE gets 1st go at coalition, Cs, having spent the campaign trying to outdo PP and Vox for españolismo and racism, will suddenly rediscover their ‘liberal’ side...

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                        #36
                        Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                        Where did you see this exit poll?
                        Twitter - link is in the post.

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                          #37
                          Official Spanish TV exit poll is rather more promising for the left:

                          http://twitter.com/rtve/status/1122561071426998273

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                            #38
                            Interesting map

                            [URL]https://twitter.com/europeelects/status/1122571185579933696?s=21[/URL]

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                              #39
                              As is this one:

                              http://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1122572206670663680

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                                #40
                                20% of official results, so health warning required:

                                Left 167 (Socialists 128, Podemos 39)

                                Right 141 (PP 68, Cs 50, Vox 21, Navarre 2)

                                Nationalist 34 (ERC 15, JxC 7, PNV 6, Bildu 3, Compromís 1, Cantabrian Party 1)

                                8 toss-ups.

                                https://resultados.eleccionesgeneral...-nacional/0/es
                                Last edited by Diable Rouge; 28-04-2019, 19:31.

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                                  #41
                                  Compromís is a left wing party so can be added to the left vote as well.

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                                    #42
                                    https://twitter.com/Aljiuss/status/1122541491895832577

                                    Rafael Martínez. 105 years old. In 1936 he voted Popular Front. In 2019 he's voting Podemos.

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                                      #43
                                      I guess you're adding ECP into Podemos, DR?

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                                        #44
                                        Originally posted by TonTon View Post
                                        I guess you're adding ECP into Podemos, DR?
                                        Yes, for the sake of convenience at any rate.

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                                          #45
                                          As things stand, the right are being shut out of the Basque Country, with 10 of the 18 seats going to nationalists, and the others shared equally between the Socialists and Podemos. In Catalonia, 22 out of the 48 seats would be won by pro-independence parties, 19 going to those favouring the status quo, and 7 to Podemos (PP would be reduced to one seat there, much like the Scottish Tories pre-Davison).

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                                            #46
                                            ECP (what you're calling Podemos in Catalonia) are pro-referendum, but not pro-independence. So you'd have 29 of 48 seats going to pro-referendum parties.

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                                              #47
                                              At halfway:

                                              Left 169 (Socialists 126, Podemos 42 (35+7), Compromis 1)
                                              Right 146 (PP 66, Cs 55, Vox 23, Navarre 2)
                                              Nationalist 35 (ERC 15, JxC 7, PNV 6, Bildu 4, Canaries 2, Cantabrians 1)

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                                                #48
                                                It's looking not at all bad, really.

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                                                  #49
                                                  The fascists got 2 million votes. But it could have been a lot worse, yes.

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                                                    #50
                                                    I'm taking it the Cantabrian Nats are more for Devo Max than secession.

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