Beverage bias

[tee rex]

I don't know what the current cliches are in the UK, but in Aus/NZ it's more or less compulsory for any "Will this do?" half-assed columnist to characterise anyone mildly progressive as a "latte liberal" or "chardonnay drinker". It's as sadly predictable as "PCGM" and so on. And like most lazy lines, it turns out not to be true:

http://www.tai.org.au/content/resear...iberalnational

I'm a flat white and beer man myself, or used to be (these days health concerns have made me more of a "water wimp" or "lemon tea leftie"). I never bother with wine, so that probably puts me in the Leave camp, grapes begin at Calais. Never bothered with soy either, certainly not in tea. So I must be some kind of 1970's soc dem, with beer and sandwiches at number 10. You?

[hobbes]

Water, sparkling water, coke zero, red wine, lager, bourbon, gin.

[hobbes]

In the same glass.

[Guy Profumo]

I've always preferred the phrase "tofu-weaver" to sneer at the vegetarian / vegan / organic / save the planet lobby.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Just because I'm from Devon and like a good cider doesn't make me a yokel.

<Falls backwards off wall into field, revealing exposed private parts beneath smock>

[Jah Womble]

I've always preferred the phrase "tofu-weaver" to sneer at the vegetarian / vegan / organic / save the planet lobby.

Yeah, those bastards, eh?

I'm a skimmed-milk drinker, which is doubtless an insult in some right-wing quarters.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

I'm part of the privileged middle class culturally and politically, and am as middle class as they come when it comes to my choice of alcoholic beverages - I drank wine every day until recently (now water instead most days for weight control), and have v limited appetite for beer. But as for coffee - I have no interest at all in the proliferation of options, I just want a cup of normal sodding coffee, you know, spoonful of instant and add some milk, and it really pisses me off that if I'm having coffee when out and about I have to give it some stupid name. "Americano", I believe. As wingco put it, I'm not a 1950s refugee from Cuba, ffs.

[Benjm]

I seem to remember one of the papers, probably the Mail, trying to get traction for prosecco as being the drink of the pampered and self indulgent do gooder. It didn't really take off because prosecco isn't that expensive and their main case study was Charlotte Church, who is generally well liked.

[diggedy derek]

The best drink is sparkling water, I still can't believe it exists. Who was the wise person on here who said that, when they go to a coffee place with daft names, they just ask for black coffee, as it never fails? That's saved me several minutes over the course of my lifetime.

[elguapo4]

I hate coffee, the taste that is, but pretension in any food or drink drives me mental, it either tastes good or doesn't,that's all that matters.
For the record my drinks of choice are beer (various brands depending on mood) tea, water, milk,7up.

[Stumpy Pepys]

Tea with milk, coffee with milk, Diet Coke, Helles, wine.

Stopped drinking spirits a while ago, but I'll have a schnapps if you're twisting my arm.

[Benjm]

Clearly a lot of food and drink connoisseur talk is thinly disguised vanity and oneupmanship but going too far down the plain and simple fayre track can be just as much of an affectation. What is annoying is when names that denote a specific thing are attached to something else because it sounds cooler. A croque monsieur isn't just a ham and cheese toastie. Likewise an Americano isn't just a black coffee, it's espresso diluted with hot water. That might seem a pettifogging distinction but it is relevant if the place where you are ordering also sells filter coffee that may have been standing in a flask or jug for some time. The Americano has to be freshly made and why wouldn't you want that?

[Jah Womble]

Add tea, coffee, IPA/bitter, lager (with food only), wine, Scotch, most spirits, Diet Coke/tonic, ginger beer, root beer, fruit juices, water - most liquids, in fact - to my list.

[G-Man]

I'm part of the privileged middle class culturally and politically, and am as middle class as they come when it comes to my choice of alcoholic beverages - I drank wine every day until recently (now water instead most days for weight control), and have v limited appetite for beer. But as for coffee - I have no interest at all in the proliferation of options, I just want a cup of normal sodding coffee, you know, spoonful of instant and add some milk, and it really pisses me off that if I'm having coffee when out and about I have to give it some stupid name. "Americano", I believe. As wingco put it, I'm not a 1950s refugee from Cuba, ffs.

My poor wife has been so brutalised by fascist café nomenclature that she innocently asked for an "Americano" in Cuba. They looked at her blankly. "Café con leche, por favor." Ah yes. No fascist café nomenclature in sicoaist paradise.

A few days later in Paris, she asked for an Americano but with milk please, as the fascist café nomenclaturists have brainwashed her to request. The garcon looked at her with utter incomprehension. "Un café au lait, s.v.p." Ah yes, no fascist café nomenclature in yellow-vest thrashing capitalist hell either.

[Ray de Galles]

Tea, coffee (americano or latte), orange & cranberry juice mixed, tea, sparkling water, Coke Zero, tea, German or Belgian wheat beer, red or rosé wine, tea, gin & tonic.

[Gangster Octopus]

Tea (Twinings) as long as it's made by myself. Beer: bitter or lager, depending what's on offer. Red wine. Coffee (if I have to): take-away Mocha or Maya; drink-in latte or cappuccino.

[ursus arctos]

Which variety of Twinings? Or do they make a "Tea" full stop that isn't exported?

[Eggchaser]

Champagne socialist is a favourite.

[Ginger Yellow]

The best drink is sparkling water, I still can't believe it exists. Who was the wise person on here who said that, when they go to a coffee place with daft names, they just ask for black coffee, as it never fails? That's saved me several minutes over the course of my lifetime.

That's what I do, but it often fails, or at least involve me having to explain that I just want an Americano or a filter coffee or whatever they offer that equates to a black coffee, with nothing in it.

[DCI Harry Batt]

I accept the odd offer of a cup of tea (milk and one) but not often and I never order one or make one.

At home I'm too lazy for decent coffee, so it's the best instant I've found. Black no sugar obvs.

I'll go a medium skinny cappuccino of a morning.

Apart from that it's water. Flat not fizzy. Cold.

[WOM]

Coffee (cream and sugar), tea (black), root beer, Brio, Sanpellegrino Blood Orange flavour, and gallons of water. S'bout it.

[Furtho]

Just because I'm from Devon and like a good cider doesn't make me a yokel.

I was in a secondhand bookshop yesterday and attached to a shelf in a dusty corner was a photograph of a piece of graffiti - spraypainted on to a brick wall in 18-inch high letters, the words AVOID CIDER. Apparently it's not in Devon or Somerset but Leamington Spa.

[MsD]

I'm still a committed champagne socialist, but I do dabble in gin these days, which I guess makes me a gin-soaked cat lady. I like prosecco and cava but not as much as champagne.
Rum, I've given up sodomy and the lash these days, but I like Appleton's and other good Caribbean rums.

Wine - I like pinot grigio and some other varieties.

I make brilliant coffee at home, it's usually a soya cappuccino, and I usually have breakfast tea bags, or assam or darjeeling if I'm somewhere posh that serves the tea with tea leaves. Sometimes Earl Grey when I'm in the mood.

[ursus arctos]

Has "curated cocktail culture" become a thing in London yet?

It's unfortunate that EIM is on holiday, as his invective in response would be worth reading.

[WOM]

Rum, I've given up sodomy and the lash these days, ...

You're a man you don't meet every day...