Someone Has To Do It: US Elections 2020

[Hot Pepsi]

It’s not clear, to me at least, what Latinx/Latin/Latino/Latina people actually prefer or if there is any consensus around it. I’m not going to assume that activists and academics are a fair representation of the population, especially given that academics in particular are notorious for going out of their way to make language more opaque.

[Bruno]

Latino uses the male form to denote everyone.

You find it acceptable. Many other don't

You repeatedly asserting something doesn't make it so

This appears to be the third time today you've accused me of saying something I haven't. What "something" are you saying I'm asserting? I realize many find "Latino" unacceptable. That's how this discussion arose. It's their right to find it unacceptable. For at least the third time, I think anyone who does is wrong to judge those who don't have a problem with it, because it's still a broadly accepted term, is listed in all standard dictionaries as correct, and is not a slur. That's my opinion, not an assertion of fact.

[Bruno]

As for Latinx, I find it an awkward construction and it’s difficult to read because I don’t know how to pronounce it, but - frankly - its deeply unimportant how I react to it If Latinx people prefer it, then it’s not my business to tell them they’re wrong.

For the record, no one here has suggested "they" are "wrong" to prefer the word.

[Bruno]

About One-in-Four U.S. Hispanics Have Heard of Latinx, but Just 3% Use It

[Bruno]

Maybe a ways to go before we can starting referring to what "the Latinx people" want.

[Bruno]

Progressive Latino pollster: 98% of Latinos do not identify with “Latinx” label

We presented our respondents with seven of the most common terms used to describe Latinos and asked them to select the one that best describes them. When it came to “Latinx,” there was near unanimity. Despite its usage by academics and cultural influencers, 98% of Latinos prefer other terms to describe their ethnicity. Only 2% of our respondents said the label accurately describes them, making it the least popular ethnic label among Latinos.

[Gangster Octopus]

Enough already.

[WOM]

This is boooorrring.

[anton pulisov]

Except the Latinx people don't see themselves as Italians. Just as Irish people don't like being called English

I didn't realise that I had called them Italians

[MsD]

Correctamundx.

[Hot Pepsi]

Since we’re on the topic of labels. Do people from the Philippines count as “east Asian” or “Pacific Islanders?”

[caja-dglh]

Well. I always wondered what would kill this thread. Whoever had Bruno & Nef in an argument about gender - pat yourself on the back.

[San Bernardhinault]

Since we’re on the topic of labels. Do people from the Philippines count as “east Asian” or “Pacific Islanders?”

Hispanic?

[ad hoc]

Since we’re on the topic of labels. Do people from the Philippines count as “east Asian” or “Pacific Islanders?”

I'd say Asian. Like Japan. Havng lived in the Pacific Islands

[anton pulisov]

Well. I always wondered what would kill this thread. Whoever had Bruno & Nef in an argument about gender - pat yourself on the back.

We can all be amigxs on here, surely.

[Nefertiti2]

I didn't realise that I had called them Italians

"I'm going to use the Italian plural Latini then. Grammatically correct woke"

[San Bernardhinault]

Perhaps “they prefer” wasn’t great. But put it this way - no harm is done by using Latinx. Potential offense is caused and potential damage in terms of gender stereotype reinforcement is done by using Latino. So why not take the completely effortless route of causing least offense and damage by changing a single letter?

[Hot Pepsi]

I'd say Asian. Like Japan. Havng lived in the Pacific Islands

That was my thought, but a guy I know whose dad is Philippino suggested they are Pacific Islands, which is always one of the choices on any survey.

[San Bernardhinault]

I have a white friend from Illinois with a South African passport who states that she is “African American” by any geographical definition. Just like people from Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines are “Pacific Islanders” by geographical definitions. But that’s clearly not the point in terms of describing people by their ethnic backgrounds. Pacific Islanders really means micronesians, melanesians and polynesians.

[Eggchaser]

I'm glad I've been drinking heavily and watching NFL highlights whilst reading the last few pages.

[Nefertiti2]

I have a white friend from Illinois with a South African passport who states that she is “African American” by any geographical definition.

Bet she’s fun at parties

[Hot Pepsi]

That’s what I thought, but I don’t know much about the Philippines.

[diggedy derek]

Sidney Powell, who was being trumpeted as a key part of Trump's legal team only last week, is apparently now "not a member of the Trump legal team". Could she have proved too nuts.... even for Trump?

[ursus arctos]

Flynn must be seriously happy that he has his pardon in hand

[Bruno]

Perhaps “they prefer” wasn’t great. But put it this way - no harm is done by using Latinx. Potential offense is caused and potential damage in terms of gender stereotype reinforcement is done by using Latino. So why not take the completely effortless route of causing least offense and damage by changing a single letter?

Well, if the vast majority of Latinos/as/x don't identify with Latinx, it might cause mild offense or annoyance.