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    Georgia recount/audit confirms Biden win. Just needs Kemp's signature for certification:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/polit...lts/index.html

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      McEnany unraveling:

      https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1329840289939394560

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        So is donald Jr only catching Covid now, an embarrassing sign of how far outside the inner circle he really is?

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          The federal judge in Williamsport wasn't amused by Rudy!

          https://twitter.com/abfrancois/status/1330294650951905295

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            Williamsport is where I’d go if I got called to a federal jury.

            It’s also known for the LLWS and its high school nickname is “the Millionaires.” So now it can be famous for something else.

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              https://twitter.com/philiprucker/status/1330269973378424837

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                Jeezus
                Hopefully he’ll be tied up in court.

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                  Black and Latino support for Trump - the Beeb's view: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54972389

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                    So is the next step the unfaithful electors gambit? This quote from Sidney Powell is amazing:

                    “The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states, should be overturned, and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump,” urged Powell on Fox Business. Here was the president’s lawyer openly calling to “overturn” a federal election.


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                      Guiliani is pulling the "we deliberately lost in Pennsylvania in order to take the appeal elsewhere."

                      I'm no expert, but I don't think that is how it works.

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                        The potential for millions of people to believe in an obviously fabricated reality makes me wonder how much of our historiography is totally inaccurate.

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                          Has anybody else noticed the propensity of Grauniad and US progressive media to use the recently invented gender-neutral "Latinx"?

                          I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. The word comes from Spanish, and Latin languages are gendered by design. I feel like they are applying their Anglo language views to another culture. Just use Latina and Latino interchangeably at will.

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                            Probably a topic for the other thread. People can say whatever they want. If you're inclined to criticize or think less of someone for saying Latino instead of Latinx, you're a tool.

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                              Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post
                              Black and Latino support for Trump - the Beeb's view: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54972389
                              What do you think of this article?

                              Regarding Black people i can see alot of bullshit and lies in the article, for example:

                              "And this year, several black celebrities appeared to voice their support for Mr Trump, including rappers Curtis Jackson (aka "50 Cent") and Ice Cube - although 50 Cent later rowed back his endorsement, and Ice Cube, who had backed Mr Trump's Platinum Plan, distanced himself from the president's actual campaign."

                              50 Cent was clearly joking with the quip about Biden's tax plans turning him from 50 cent to 20 Cent and did not endorse Trump.

                              Ice Cube never endorsed Trump, something he made clear on every one of the 10,000 interviews he did.

                              Right under a chart that shows the growth in Asian (and other ) Trump vote was the highest, you see this sentence:

                              "The group that saw the biggest increase in support for Mr Trump compared to 2016, however, was black men"

                              But lets not let facts get in the way of ignorant scapegoating of black people.

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                                Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post

                                What do you think of this article?

                                Regarding Black people i can see alot of bullshit and lies in the article, for example:

                                "And this year, several black celebrities appeared to voice their support for Mr Trump, including rappers Curtis Jackson (aka "50 Cent") and Ice Cube - although 50 Cent later rowed back his endorsement, and Ice Cube, who had backed Mr Trump's Platinum Plan, distanced himself from the president's actual campaign."

                                50 Cent was clearly joking with the quip about Biden's tax plans turning him from 50 cent to 20 Cent and did not endorse Trump.

                                Ice Cube never endorsed Trump, something he made clear on every one of the 10,000 interviews he did.

                                Right under a chart that shows the growth in Asian (and other ) Trump vote was the highest, you see this sentence:

                                "The group that saw the biggest increase in support for Mr Trump compared to 2016, however, was black men"

                                But lets not let facts get in the way of ignorant scapegoating of black people.
                                Given that there would be significantly more black men than Asians voting, the statement could be numerically correct, though Hispanic men would certainly push it close.

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                                  That kind of article drives me crazy. Trump was spectacularly unpopular with black people in 2016 because he was a racist dogshit merchant. In 2020 he was still spectacularly unpopular with black people but marginally less so. “Biggest increase” is such a stupid stat, too, because starting at a low baseline makes doubling the total very easy but still basically meaningless noise.

                                  And then they back it up with vox pops which you can use to reinforce any narrative at all. You can always find someone with whatever view helps your story.

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                                    Yes, it’s like UKIP becoming a huge story because they got the biggest increase in the vote. If you didn’t know, you’d think from the coverage that they’d won elections.

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                                      Originally posted by Bruno View Post
                                      Probably a topic for the other thread. People can say whatever they want. If you're inclined to criticize or think less of someone for saying Latino instead of Latinx, you're a tool.
                                      if you call someone a tool for asking people to use the word Latinx- (not dissimilar from asking people not to use "He" or "Man" to mean humanity) then you're a tool.

                                      Plenty of speakers of languages which are gendered are finding ways to be inclusive. No reason not to recognise that (unless you're a small minded bigot, of course- and/or a Jordan Peterson stan)

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                                        Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post
                                        Has anybody else noticed the propensity of Grauniad and US progressive media to use the recently invented gender-neutral "Latinx"?

                                        I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. The word comes from Spanish, and Latin languages are gendered by design. I feel like they are applying their Anglo language views to another culture. Just use Latina and Latino interchangeably at will.
                                        It's not a word invented by Anglos.

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                                          Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                                          if you call someone a tool for asking people to use the word Latinx- (not dissimilar from asking people not to use "He" or "Man" to mean humanity) then you're a tool.
                                          Not what I said, and you even quoted me so it was right in front of you. If someone asks me to say Latinx, I might well comply so as not to offend them. That someone judging me for saying Latino is a different matter, as would be judging everyone who didn't get the memo. If people are taking personal offense at uses of the word not directed at them, I think they've got a problematic approach to life. If they prefer a different word, they can ask away, and maybe everyone will say yes. But what seems to happen instead is a lot of attempted bigot shaming, as for example --

                                          Plenty of speakers of languages which are gendered are finding ways to be inclusive. No reason not to recognise that (unless you're a small minded bigot, of course- and/or a Jordan Peterson stan)

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                                            when you say "attempted bigot shaming" do you mean "attempting to shame a bigot", or "shaming people for attempting to be a bigot"?

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                                              I don't understand the point of the question. What does "attempting to be a bigot" mean? As you probably knew, I meant attempting to paint someone who isn't a bigot as a bigot, because that's what makes you happiest.

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                                                You (as so often )make entirely unnecessary offensive remarks where you describe those who disagree with you as "tool"

                                                You don't like being called out for your behaviour.

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                                                  Plenty of speakers of languages which are gendered are finding ways to be inclusive. No reason not to recognise that -

                                                  "If you're inclined to criticize or think less of someone for saying Latino instead of Latinx", you're doing your bit for encouraging people to think about how gender operates"

                                                  This is like to upset those who used to think Jordan Peterson is intellectually respectable

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                                                    Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post
                                                    Has anybody else noticed the propensity of Grauniad and US progressive media to use the recently invented gender-neutral "Latinx"?

                                                    I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. The word comes from Spanish, and Latin languages are gendered by design. I feel like they are applying their Anglo language views to another culture. Just use Latina and Latino interchangeably at will.
                                                    Anything gendered can cause problems for people, by design or not. So ungendering - such as 'they' instead of 'he' or 'she', or Latinx - is a progressive way of undesigning it.

                                                    Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn there's a movement to engender objects, too. Lu table instead of le or la. What table or chair or hat needs to be gendered?

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