That is especially true for states (like California) that have "open" primaries, as the principal reason for registering in a party in the other states (like New York) is being able to vote in primaries that are often determinative of the final general election result.
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Sure. But they're wrong.
(More seriously, of course, almost no-one in England is a member of a political party, and large numbers of people have the same retail view of electoral politics as yer average USian.)
(Ok, ok, "almost no-one" is a stretch. Maybe 1.5% or so of people in the UK are. I don't have figures for England alone.)Last edited by DCI Harry Batt; 19-10-2020, 15:50.
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Yeah, it just means you get a lot more junk mail.
Americans, it seems, are just a lot more turned off by politics in general. You might think that the current situation would energize more people to get involved, and I think it has with young people especially, but it also makes it all so much more stressful and unpleasant. I'm in a 24-hr a day minor anxiety attack about it. I can't imagine having to engage with it all the time.
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The Democratic leaning of VBM/absentee ballots has made a lot of people speculate that the in-person vote on Nov. 3 will be heavily Republican, which makes me wonder...are the traditional exit pollsters adjusting to take this into consideration? Will there even be exit polls this year?
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Originally posted by Incandenza View PostThe Democratic leaning of VBM/absentee ballots has made a lot of people speculate that the in-person vote on Nov. 3 will be heavily Republican, which makes me wonder...are the traditional exit pollsters adjusting to take this into consideration? Will there even be exit polls this year?
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Ah yes, the demographic data, of course.
Is a big thing made of them on election night? Here we have all polling stop at the same time, and a massive exit poll released on network TV seconds later, which dominates coverage for a couple of hours until the first results come in.
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I'm not sure many people voting by mail are aware that their ballot can easily be rejected if the signature doesn't match what the Department of Motor Vehicles happens to have on file. Many of the latter are stylus signatures drawn on a screen, which rarely look like your paper signature. I would assume the GOP are going all out in this direction and there will be raucous claims of "thousands upon thousands of bogus signatures."
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Originally posted by TonTon View PostAh yes, the demographic data, of course.
Is a big thing made of them on election night? Here we have all polling stop at the same time, and a massive exit poll released on network TV seconds later, which dominates coverage for a couple of hours until the first results come in.
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Originally posted by Bruno View PostI'm not sure many people voting by mail are aware that their ballot can easily be rejected if the signature doesn't match what the Department of Motor Vehicles happens to have on file. Many of the latter are stylus signatures drawn on a screen, which rarely look like your paper signature. I would assume the GOP are going all out in this direction and there will be raucous claims of "thousands upon thousands of bogus signatures."
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Originally posted by TonTon View PostAh yes, the demographic data, of course.
Is a big thing made of them on election night? Here we have all polling stop at the same time, and a massive exit poll released on network TV seconds later, which dominates coverage for a couple of hours until the first results come in.
You get the added bonus of different times of polls closing and different time zones, creating about 8 hours of TV where everyone looks like they have been drinking bang* excessively and frequently.
*Bang is like red bull on steroids with added creatine and god knows what. It is loony juice that makes you think you could go and pick up a car and carry it across the street.
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Originally posted by TonTon View PostOh, we don't allow that here. It's illegal to publish an exit poll while polls are open.
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Originally posted by caja-dglh View Post
*Bang is like red bull on steroids with added creatine and god knows what. It is loony juice that makes you think you could go and pick up a car and carry it across the street.
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Originally posted by Bruno View PostI'm not sure many people voting by mail are aware that their ballot can easily be rejected if the signature doesn't match what the Department of Motor Vehicles happens to have on file. Many of the latter are stylus signatures drawn on a screen, which rarely look like your paper signature. I would assume the GOP are going all out in this direction and there will be raucous claims of "thousands upon thousands of bogus signatures."
Even in those states that do have signature matching, there has to be a forum in which individual signatures are challenged, which in some states requires a formal recount.
This isn't intended to diminish the likelihood of GOP challenges, but rather to provide some perspective as to the hurdles they face.
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The time differences (not just time zones, but also significant differences in the time in which the polls close in different states in the same time zone) means that exit polling is much different here than it is in the European countries that allow it (which are much like the UK; I recall France TV having a countdown clock followed by a hologram Macron walking into a simulating Elysee last time 'round).
Here, they are the basis for "calling" states and state-level races, but aren't done on a national level (in part because the national popular vote doesn't matter, as many have learned to their displeasure).
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
This is dependent on state law and simply does not exist in many states.
Even in those states that do have signature matching, there has to be a forum in which individual signatures are challenged, which in some states requires a formal recount.
This isn't intended to diminish the likelihood of GOP challenges, but rather to provide some perspective as to the hurdles they face.
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Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
I think you're understating the amount of caffeine in Bang. I've had a couple of cans, and both times they've made me intensely, unpleasantly jittery.
Chugging a can of BANG allows you to down 300mg of caffeine in mere minutes, which can be too much, too fast for people who are not accustomed to such a dose. A warning on BANG cans details that "too much caffeine may cause nervousness, irritability, sleeplessness, and, occasionally, rapid heartbeat."
Red Bull = 30mg
I remember when Red Bull was seen as the big dog of caffeine. I was trying to anticipate tonton.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostVery true, but they don't need actual rules to do that
Trump still.says that he lost California because of millions of illegal votes.
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But the apparatus that you are talking about only will access to individual votes in states where the Republicans control the process and/or the statutory conditions are met.
California is never going to satisfy either condition, nor are several other states where he will lose. As I keep saying, it is a potential issue in a relative handful of swing states (like the one in which you live), but isn't nationwide.
Given the membership of the board, I think it important that one reminds non-US posters that the electoral rules for national elections here differ by state and locality, given that virtually nowhere else has a similar system and that virtually everyone else thinks ours is batshit crazy in this respect.
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Here is another state that now has an issue, but had much less of one yesterday
https://twitter.com/zoetillman/status/1318220598678532105
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