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**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:02

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Anyone seeing the blustering bollocks of Nick Boles on Newsnight?

Slumber party! Labour are just as bad as us!

That won't wash, Nick.

Your loyalty won't do you any good either because lots of your party think Cameron's shit.

**hobbes** · 18-07-2011, 22:04

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The page has gone but they're still being redirected. Heh.

**Janik** · 18-07-2011, 22:04

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Ah right.

Are they likely to have these emails?

It doesn't seem impossible for them to have some emails. Whether these emails contain anything pertinent is another matter. As would be the furtherance of an investigation into criminal hacking by means of criminal hacking...

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:05

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Nick Boles acting the cunt big time on Newsnight.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:08

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Nick Boles is giving the most fucking laughable performance I've ever seen.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:09

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Janik wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Ah right.

Are they likely to have these emails?

It doesn't seem impossible for them to have some emails. Whether these emails contain anything pertinent is another matter. As would be the furtherance of an investigation into criminal hacking by means of criminal hacking...

No problem with your last point. Brooks would hold her hands up rather than get off on a technicality.

**Janik** · 18-07-2011, 22:12

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So, who puts the knife into Cameron? Clegg/Lib Dems, as the minority coalition party, would be the sensible candidate in any reasonably functioning parliamentary democracy, but I don't see them having the guts to do it.

In many ways this ought to be the Lib Dems chance, though. They are not compromised by past associations with Murdoch in the way that Miliband et al are. Not through any higher level of rectitude on their part, obviously, but because they were beneath Murdoch's contempt. Still, whatever the reason, they are in the unusual position of being a part of the British establishment that is 'clean', and they also currently have access to the levers of power.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:15

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The Tories would have to elect Nadine Dorries as leader for Clegg to break ranks.

David Davis?

**The Awesome Berbaslug!!!** · 18-07-2011, 22:17

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If clegg doesn't have already have the knife in his hand, he's an imbecile

**Janik** · 18-07-2011, 22:20

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David Davis

Not a bad call.

It's very clear the Lib Dems wouldn't want to force a general election at the moment. The coalition will stand, maybe with a new figurehead, unless the Tories want it otherwise. And I doubt they will feel that confident about going to the public at the moment (has the gerrymandering happened yet?).

**Janik** · 18-07-2011, 22:21

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The Awesome Berbaslug!!! wrote:

If clegg doesn't have already have the knife in his hand, he's an imbecile

We have to work with that possiblity.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:25

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Kenneth Clarke? Cameron and his News International mates did him up like a kipper the other week.

**Janik** · 18-07-2011, 22:33

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Kenneth Clarke? Cameron and his News International mates did him up like a kipper the other week.

With Clarke's buisness links? He's going to have a NI skeleton or two in his closet, so probably not he. Actually, NI links is going to be the problem for anyone with time served on the Tory front bench. They surely have all been courting at some point, even if simply out of fear off being seen not to have done so.

It comes back to the Lib Dems, then. Possibly a dual putsch that brings Clegg down from within and then tells Cameron he cannot stay. Simon Hughes it is.

**Tactical Genius** · 18-07-2011, 22:42

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I have a copy of the design doc for NI's mail system due some work I was doing for them last year.

Would be easy getting archived mails.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:44

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@markthomasinfo

Tory'on Newsnight, Nick Boles, deacribes Hackgate as 'a little local difficulty' was paid "up to �5000" for News International columns.

**Come along, Min** · 18-07-2011, 22:45

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Nick Boles working his hide off for a junior ministerial position on Newsnight. I'm not sure his aggressive tone will make the PM feel more secure in his job tonight..

..If he's the best that Cameron can muster, I almost feel sorry for him.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:47

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atlanticjaxx wrote:

Nick Boles working his hide off for a junior ministerial position on Newsnight. I'm not sure his aggressive tone will make the PM feel more secure in his job tonight..

..If he's the best that Cameron can muster, I almost feel sorry for him.

The Cabinet's a bit thin admittedly but there are a few who can debate- Hague is the most obvious.

The other one they've sent out is Michael Fallon. He at least can keep calm, and has been around a bit.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:51

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Haven't heard much from Stephen Dorrell. He was the last Tory to do anything Murdoch didn't like, publishing a white paper in favour of strong regulation of broadcasting when the party needed Murdoch's support. Loveable Michael Hestletine and others attacked it in Cabinet, and it got watered down. But his successor, Virginia Bottomley (apparently not keen on Murdoch either) managed to keep a regulation stopping Murdoch from buying a terrestrial station.

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 22:51

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So good I said it twice.

**Come along, Min** · 18-07-2011, 22:52

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@Tubby

That's the thing though, they're not coming out to bat for him, there was a short piece in the speccy about it earlier.

Comments worth reading to get a general idea of what the right are thinking about

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 23:01

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Shit, Cameron seems to think the fact Coulson hasn't been shown to have done anything dodgy in government means we're being a bit harsh on him.

**Come along, Min** · 18-07-2011, 23:01

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Favourite photo of Cameron today.

Worth clicking on and looking at in super close up..

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 23:04

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Ha, ha, ha.

Boles' performance already on Wikipedia

On Newsnight, 18 July 2011, Boles said the News Corporation phone hacking scandal was a "little local difficulty puffed up by Labour".

**Tubby Isaacs** · 18-07-2011, 23:16

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So tmrw's going to be a let down, isn't it?

**Come along, Min** · 18-07-2011, 23:28

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It feels like it has been built up too much, but this story ain't dying tomorrow, not with this new David Kelly thing..

...

Murdoch's quite old?... I'm not like George Micheals and hoping for a Tommy Cooper, but...