I'm not going to pretend that the tiny number of convicted rapists are the only rapists.
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Whatever your opinion of Ecuador's decision, how was this going to end regardless? What was Assange's long-term plan? This situation was clearly untenable. Unless Assange planned to live there for the rest of his life with Ecuador's permissions OR the US decided to just let bygones be bygones, this was going to happen eventually. I can't image the 'third way'.
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We could have charged him with contravening the conditions of his bail (and have hime deal with whatever the result may have been), recognised that Sweden have dropped charges and refused the US request for extradition. We look like fucking puppets again.
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Assange is being charged with conspiracy to hack
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1116336550873317377
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At the very least, the UK should not be extraditing people to a country whose record on torture is as dark as the USA's, but even leaving that aside his guilt of any crime is far from certain, unless embarrassing the US govt is a crime.
What are the chances of Trump pardoning him for services rendered?Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 11-04-2019, 13:57.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostLove Ash Sarkar
confirmation of the extradition. And remember Chelsea Manning is in prison for refusing to co-operate with Assange extradition proceedings
https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1116302894259679233
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostAt the very least, the UK should not be extraditing people to a country whose record on torture is as dark as the USA's
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The Swedish government says that they judge every extradition request upon its merits, including those from the USA (who they have a treaty with).
I think justice here would be Assange facing trial for the criminal behaviour he is accused of in Sweden, and Sweden subsequently ignoring the bullshit extradition request from the US.
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Is the US still to ratify the extradition treaty with Britain? They were happy enough not abiding by there end for a long old while.
Originally posted by anton pulisov View PostIf Sweden were to re-open their investigation and make an extradition request, would their extradition request (from a fellow EU country) receive priority ahead of that of the US?
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I agree with AP.
And yes, an extradition treaty doesn't mean that you extradite everybody that the other country asks for - it means that if they present their case and your own country's legal system looks at that case and believes there is a case, then you extradite.
In this case in Sweden he is accused of a real crime. He should be extradited there. In the US they have invented some spurious charge which is utter bollocks and hopefully the judge in the UK will throw it out
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Originally posted by Janik View PostThe Swedish investigation was ended because it had passed their statute of limitations, hadn't it? If that was the case, there is no potential for it to be reopened.
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ad hoc is correct on the statute of limitations point, which is why the original complainant hopes that the Swedish prosecutors will reactivate the case.
The Swedish Prosecution Authority said on Thursday that it had learned of Assange's arrest from media reports.
"This is news to us too, so we have not been able to take a position on the information that is now available. We also do not know why he is under arrest. We are following the developments," said Chief Prosecutor Ingrid Isgren in a statement.
The statement continued: "A preliminary investigation can be resumed as long as the suspected crime is not subject to statute of limitation. In this case, the suspected crime of rape would be subject to statute of limitation in mid-August 2020."
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So then after Assange faces justice in Sweden (is acquitted or serves his time there), the US are free to send an extradition request to Sweden. The Swedes have never said how they would respond to such a request, only that they will judge any request once they receive it. But the fact that Sweden is one of the countries that wikileaks servers are located in might give you some insight into how they would handle the request.
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Originally posted by WOM View Post
No, I'm clear on that. Conspiracy to steal military secrets is something a bit larger, I think it's fair to say. Obviously this will have to be proved, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
I dunno, only if the word "conspiracy" has a massively different meaning in US legal speak than it does in actual English
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