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    Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
    the gender they choose to identify with
    This is a mealy-mouthed, dog whistle transphobic phrase that completely misrepresents what it is like to be trans. Please stop using it.

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      I'm speechless.

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        Originally posted by delicatemoth View Post

        This is a mealy-mouthed, dog whistle transphobic phrase that completely misrepresents what it is like to be trans. Please stop using it.
        Hi Delicatemouth, I am was using it to be descriptive and meant to be offensive to you or Trans people. If you could educate me with the correct term to use, i'll endevour to use it in the future. Apologies for any offence used.

        Also if you point out the post i'll update it. I looked for it and couldn't find it (i'm not accusing you of making it up as you have clearly quoted me and it is a descriptive term i would use).
        Last edited by Tactical Genius; 27-06-2019, 15:02.

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          Thanks. "Because they are transgender" works perfectly well.

          For anyone who doesn't get why the phrase I picked out annoys me (and others) so much, look at it again. "The gender they choose to identify with" is carefully phrased to indicate that being trans is something you happen to fancy doing, and that you could equally choose not to. As me and many other trans people repeatedly point out in various media, laying our life stories out for the cis voyeuristic gaze in an attempt to justify our right to exist, this is not true.

          Think I'm in a bad mood? Well yes, I am as it happens. To get back to the premise of the thread, it ought to be a WTF when hate crimes against a small minority rise significantly due to TV, radio and newspaper editors/owners/senior staff being bigoted boots. Sadly, it was all too predictable.

          https://twitter.com/shahmiruk/status/1144165504006938624
          Last edited by delicatemoth; 27-06-2019, 16:35.

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            I was speechless about the pregnant woman and the shooting story; there was a crossed post, I think.

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              I'm very sorry Sporting, that was me being over sensitive and I've edited my post. I said I was in a bad mood.

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                No problems.

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                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ired-to-police



                  A Spanish woman and her daughter have been arrested after going to a police station to complain that the man they hired to carry out a murder had swindled them out of the €7,000 (£6,300) they paid him.

                  The investigation began earlier this month, when the pair told police in Madrid that the mother’s partner had cheated them out of a total of €60,000.

                  It later emerged the daughter’s partner, who claimed to be a senior member of Spain’s secret services, had suggested they recover the lost money by killing the mother’s boyfriend.

                  They paid him a €7,000 downpayment on the understanding he would arrange to have the mother’s boyfriend killed and sell the dead man’s organs to raise the €60,000.

                  When the killing failed to take place, the mother and daughter felt defrauded and went to the police again.

                  “Officers then proceeded to arrest the two women and set about tracing and arresting the male suspect,” Madrid police said in a statement. “They have not ruled out the possibility that he may have swindled other people.”

                  They said the three suspects were waiting to appear before a judge and that the victim of the plot had been found “in perfect health”.

                  The Spanish news agency Efe reported that the three suspects were all Spanish citizens, with no criminal records. They did not give their names, in line with Spanish police practice, but Efe reported that the mother was 52, the daughter 20 and the daughter’s boyfriend 29.

                  Officers are looking into the background of the man and how he came to have false documents bearing the logo of the state intelligence agency, the National Intelligence Centre.

                  They also found a document in which he had allegedly laid out how he planned to carry out the killing and sell the victim’s organs.

                  According to Efe, the man had a fake CV, which claimed he was a lieutenant colonel, an expert marksman and a specialist in interrogation and “elimination”. It also said he spoke 22 languages, including Bengali and Hawaiian.

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                    Originally posted by delicatemoth View Post
                    Thanks. "Because they are transgender" works perfectly well.

                    For anyone who doesn't get why the phrase I picked out annoys me (and others) so much, look at it again. "The gender they choose to identify with" is carefully phrased to indicate that being trans is something you happen to fancy doing, and that you could equally choose not to. As me and many other trans people repeatedly point out in various media, laying our life stories out for the cis voyeuristic gaze in an attempt to justify our right to exist, this is not true.

                    Think I'm in a bad mood? Well yes, I am as it happens. To get back to the premise of the thread, it ought to be a WTF when hate crimes against a small minority rise significantly due to TV, radio and newspaper editors/owners/senior staff being bigoted boots. Sadly, it was all too predictable.

                    https://twitter.com/shahmiruk/status/1144165504006938624
                    Thanks for taking the time to explain to me. I can see how that comment would cause offence.


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                      Irony alert:

                      Daily Mail write article criticizing authorities for intending to deport grandmother for "being a burden on the health service"


                      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...alth-dies.html

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                        Deporting a 93 year old. That's beyond heartless.

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                          Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                          Deporting a 93 year old. That's beyond heartless.
                          Especially one (or anyone else for that matter) in ill-health.

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                            I do make an exception for war criminals, but yes.

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                              Sri Lanka - "just in case we need to kill somebody"


                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26542991

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                                https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1145355152846741504

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                                  Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                                  Deporting a 93 year old. That's beyond heartless.
                                  That's Australia under the Tories for you...

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                                      Well that's something you don't see every day.

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                                        Quite why his educational status is relevant is beyond me, as is the decision to partially doxx him.

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                                          Because it is The Times, and the only things that matter are those "relevant" to their readership.

                                          Similar to the Nuclear Holocaust Wipes Out [other city]; Local Man Dies headlines beloved by newspaper parody writers.

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                                            Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post
                                            Quite why his educational status is relevant is beyond me, as is the decision to partially doxx him.
                                            We're just fortunate it wasn't a 'mum of 3'.

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                                              That reminds me of hearing a report on the shark attack death in the Bahamas the other day, where some US breakfast news described it as "A family vacation was cut short after a deadly shark attack". It's not quite as bad and as unaware, but it was still weird.

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                                                Rare evidence of rational decision-making in Alabama

                                                [URL="https://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/1146496538471993344?s=21"]https://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/1146496538471993344[/URL]

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                                                  Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post
                                                  Quite why his educational status is relevant is beyond me, as is the decision to partially doxx him.
                                                  It reminds me of a daily mail article covering the death of a friend of mine, who was hit by a police chase as she was going to the ATM. the law firm she worked for was in the first paragraph, the value of her parents house was in the second paragraph, the bangladeshi taxi driver who was also killed in the crash was mentioned in the sixth paragraph. He had three kids. It made me surprisingly furious, and would have horrified her.

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                                                    Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post

                                                    It reminds me of a daily mail article covering the death of a friend of mine, who was hit by a police chase as she was going to the ATM. the law firm she worked for was in the first paragraph, the value of her parents house was in the second paragraph, the bangladeshi taxi driver who was also killed in the crash was mentioned in the sixth paragraph. He had three kids. It made me surprisingly furious, and would have horrified her.
                                                    That's upsetting on many levels.

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