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    Zen and the art of talking nonsense

    Had reason today (it was quiet) to dig out an old textbook I had on Zen Buddhism. There was some stuff I thought was in there about the concepts of "leader" and "follower" I thought I could bring into a paper I was writing on leadership in the modern workplace, to make myself appear cleverer than I am.

    I was really into Zen for a brief while when I was a student, it seemed cool at the time, and Richard Gere and all sorts of people were into it. But my heavens, I've clearly lost my Zen, and become far more cynical in my own journey down the river of life, because lots of it suddenly seems not so much wise sayings, anymore, as something out of Vic Reeves' wildest imaginings.

    Take some of the most famous meditative koans, for example.

    "Two hands clap; they make a noise. What is the sound of one hand clapping?" I still get, still very profound.

    "Can a dog achieve the enlightenment of the buddha? This question has no meaning." Fair enough.

    "Where do I find the buddha? In dried dung". Now surely that's got to be at the least a bit disrespectful.

    "A monk asks his teacher, 'when do I begin to learn?'. His teacher replies, 'have you finished your meal?' 'Yes,' the monk replies. 'Then go and wash your bowl,' the monk says. 'There, you have learnt.'" What?

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    Zen and the art of talking nonsense

    Yes, but koans aren't questions or riddles. They're meant to clear the mind by focussing on the nature of the question.

    And I believe the response to the dog question is traditionally 'mu', which is translated simply as 'nothing', rather than 'This question has no meaning'.

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      Zen and the art of talking nonsense

      Yes, but that's my point. When I was a student, I could read koans and spend days meditating on precisely that, their inner meaning. Fifteen years later, I read them and instinctively think "what a load of old cobblers that is, I haven't got time for this". As I said, I've somewhere along the line "lost" the calm inner peace required.

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        Zen and the art of talking nonsense

        mu

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          Zen and the art of talking nonsense

          Any oldtimers reading? I think this is where one might have seen a post about eating and reading the newspaper.

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