Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Was I the only one who'd assumed the bloke who closed the King's Road on Tuesday in a shootout with police was a homeless nutter, not a bloody barrister with a wife so posh she wanted to keep her own name?

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Sorry to derail your thread, but what the fuck does "... a wife so posh she wanted to keep her own name" mean?

[ad hoc]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Yeah.

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

I agree that "Shootout in Chelsea" sounded pretty incongruous, incidentally. Shootout in where?

(Schoolboy error on the West End/West London confusion though.)

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

My wife kept her own name, and her Dad drove a school bus in Scarborough, Ontario, the upper class cunt.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Well, women wanting to keep the family name normally means they've either got a professional reputation in their own right that is dependant upon their name, or they're from a bloody posh family that couldn't give a stuff which little oik has married into Daddy's bloodline.

You're right, I shouldn't leap as to which side of that fence this widow (and, I realise, she must be grieving) is from.

[Hofzinser]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

My wife-to-be is keeping her own name and both her parents are working class Dubliners.

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Well, women wanting to keep the family name normally means they've either got a professional reputation in their own right that is dependant upon their name, or they're from a bloody posh family that couldn't give a stuff which little oik has married into Daddy's bloodline.

The whole feminism thing kind of passed you by, then?

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Don't get me started on those revolting stuck-up bitches with their own professional reputations.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Not at all, and nor has it, presumably, the thousands of married women I've come across in the last twenty years who've still gladly "taken" their husband's name.

What's your fucking point?

[JtS]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

What the fcuking hell are you boys doing allowing your wives to keep their own names? For christ sake grow some!

Rogin, Chelsea is miles from the West End.

[Guest]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

I think his point is that this

Well, women wanting to keep the family name normally means they've either got a professional reputation in their own right that is dependant upon their name, or they're from a bloody posh family that couldn't give a stuff which little oik has married into Daddy's bloodline.

is bollocks.

My wife kept her name because we're not aware of a good reason for her to change it.

[Guest]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

I partly kept my name because of professional credits on stuff but really mostly because the new name would have sounded daft.

There you go. Stubborn adherence to the idea of a " professional reputation" AND bubble-headed vanity all in one.

[Wyatt Earp]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

See, I'd have thought my point was obvious: there are reasons other than snobbery or (worse!) a professional reputation why a woman might not want to take her husband's surname. I don't say those reasons are compelling, necessarily (my sister made the point that she'd only be keeping our Dad's surname if she didn't take her husband's, and our Dad is of course also a man), but it's bizarre to pretend they don't exist.

[ad hoc]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

My wife kept her own name, and for neither of your reasons Rogin, but for the same reason as Mrs Horse's.

[ad hoc]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Actually this is (genuinely) the first time I've ever heard it suggested that women keeping their own name is related to class. Is it a common (mis)conception?

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Yeah, but I said "normally". I'm talking from my own experience. I didn't say "only". As with all of these semantic arguments that you vultures like to hover over, you miss the fundamental, opening, point, and descend into SSS-level fundamentalism that makes one want to rip one's hair out.

The way to respond to someone saying, from his own experience, that "normally" something happens, if you feel that isn't the case, is to politely point that out, not just decide to have a fucking "let's rip this cunt to bits" fest. What are you like?

[Gangster Octopus]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

It's news to me that there are still women out there who change their name when they get married. I thought that this was the twenty-first century.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Oh, and btw, I know where fucking Chelsea is, I was trying (in the thread title) to parody the taxi driver who will refuse to take one to the East End after dark, but never mind.

[Hofzinser]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

My wife-to-be is also keeping her name for pretty much the same reason as Mrs. Horse.

[JtS]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Seriously, my missus took my surname (although she still hasn't changed everything (passport). I think she like the sound of mine and how it fit with hers. I think she liked the idea of it too.

If I were to hazard a guess women who kept the names (previously) were propably more likely to be big business than otherwise.

[evilC]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

I din't think keeping one's own name was related to class either. To be quite honest, I think that changing one's name just because you get married is a bit daft anyway. ...A bit like the institution of marriage itself!

However, weighing this issue up against 'bloke gets so depressed he tries to off himself using cops, doesn't care if he takes out innocent people and leaves behind a wife to grieve/put her life back together', I think the latter probably takes precedence in the short term, really!

[JtS]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

Actually, why wouldn't a woman change her name? Isn't it kind of part of the whole marriage process, of forming a family?

Or is marriage just a legal necessity?

[JtS]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

And the next question, if you have children what should (and I use that word very loosely) their surname be?

[ad hoc]

Blimey, love, the West End? Not after dark...

OK. I politely think your hypothesis is bollocks, and I have never seen any evidence to back it up.