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    Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

    Noticed a small item on Kicker's Business pages. Petrobras is trying to sell its 50% stake in the Bahia stadium and "the entire rights" to the stadium in Natal. Not sure what the latter means, as it's supposed to be a public-private partnership.

    Anyway, this is the thread to add anything you know about the fate of Brazil's World Cup stadia post-tournament.

    [edit: thought I was adding this to the Brazil 2014 forum, but maybe that's no longer possible, or I just messed up.]

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    Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

    Aye, sounds pretty murky.

    I'm a bit pre-occupied with stadium issues at the moment: the Spion Kop at Belfast's Windsor Park is slowly sinking into the boggy ground that much of the city is built on. This was noticed on 1 April, just two days after 4,000 people had filled it for the Finland game.

    No public statement from the engineers/ builders/ lawyers yet...

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      Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

      Maybe we'll start seeing Brazil 2014 stadium ruin porn in a few years' time.

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        Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

        The stakes in those stadia are not owned by Petrobrás but by the construction group OAS. However, OAS are being investigated by Operation 'Lava Jato' into the multi-billion pound Petrobrás corruption scandal.

        Many of the stadia which were built as a public-private partnership have now been sold off, notably the Maracanã which is owned by a consortium involving Eike Batista who, before his recent downfall, was Brazil's richest man.

        The Fonte Nova in Salvador joins five other World Cup venues in being unable to boast a Serie A team in the city. Bahia and Vitória were both relegated last year. Vitória played their games at the Barradão as they were unable to afford the rent charged by the Fonte Nova. Bahia, who have the ability to attract decent crowds have only just reached an agreement to continue at the Fonte Nova, having threatened to move out as well.

        Here's a quick update on some of the others:

        Arena das Dunas, Natal - I'm not sure who in their right minds would want to buy a stake in this. The city's two teams struggle to attract big crowds. ABC are in Série B and América have just been relegated to Série C.

        Mané Garrincha, Brasilia - at £600m the second most expensive football stadium (after Wembley) ever built. The highest ranked team in the city, Brasiliense, play in Série C. Last season it hosted various 'home' games for Flamengo, Vasco and Santos which, despite astronomical ticket prices were quite well attended. To help cover the sizable running costs, facilities have been hired out as government offices and a bus garage. As Brazil no longer play any friendlies in Brazil, its most lucrative activity is occasional concerts by the likes of Beyoncé and Paul McCartney.

        Arena Pantanal, Cuiabá - a familiar story in Brazil. The new stadium was closed in Brazil for repairs including a leaking roof. It has since re-opened but as Cuiaba are in Série C, its best chance of generating income is attracting the likes of Vasco to play one-off games there.

        Arena Amazonia, Manaús - no teams in the top four divisions. A complete basket case. their last big game was a pre-season friendly between Flamengo and Vasco.

        Castelão, Fortaleza - with a capacity of 67,000 this stadium takes some filling. However , this is a football city and could be viable if they could produce a decent team. Unfortunately, they seem incapable of doing this. Ceará are in Série B and Fortaleza in Série C.

        So of the 12 World Cup stadia, six could be classified as white elephants.

        Although average attendances at Série A games rose last year due to the novelty factor and the increased capacity at the new stadia, Brazilian club football remains in crisis due to a variety of issues such as high ticket prices, managerial instability, ridiculous kick-off times but, above all, the depressingly low quality of the football on offer.

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          Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

          imp wrote: [edit: thought I was adding this to the Brazil 2014 forum, but maybe that's no longer possible, or I just messed up.]
          Sorted.

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            Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

            I reckon you should move it back to 'Football'. More people will see it there.

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              Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

              Thanks - to both Admin 11 for the fix, and cantagalo for the very informative post. I like it here - stuff gets lost on 'football' very quickly unless it's a screaming hysterical row about Big Fat Red FC.

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                Brazil 2014: The Stadium Legacy

                Quick update on the Castelão.

                It looked like the stadium legacy was being dismantled seat by seat during a massive riot on the pitch after the Cearense State Championship final second leg between Ceará and Fortaleza yesterday.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSI07WYJyP0#t=20

                Events at the end of the game played their part as Ceará took the lead in added time only for Fortaleza to get the draw they needed in the fifth extra minute.

                The police chief criticised the easy access to the pitch from the stands saying that 'the stadium's infrastructure wasn't made for Brazilian fans'.

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