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    European Teams Decade by Decade Fluctuations

    I have awarded 3 points for a tournament win (WC or EC), 2 points RU, 1 point SF:

    1970-78: Germany 9, Netherlands 5, Italy 3, Czechia 3, USSR 2, Hungary 1, Belgium 1, Yugoslavia 1, Poland 1 (World Cups: Brazil 5, Germany 4, Netherlands 4, Italy 3, Argentina 3, Poland 1, Uruguay 1)

    1980-88: Germany 8, Italy 5, France 5, Netherlands 3, Belgium 3, Spain 2, USSR 2, Poland 1, Portugal 1, Denmark 1, Czechia 1 (World Cups: Germany 4, Italy 3, Argentina 3, France 2, Poland 1, Belgium 1)

    1990-98: Germany 8, France 4, Denmark 3, Italy 3, Netherlands 2, England 2, Czechia 2, Sweden 2, Croatia 1, Bulgaria 1 (World Cups: Brazil 5, France 3, Germany 3, Italy 3, Argentina 2, England 1, Croatia 1, Netherlands 1, Sweden 1, Bulgaria 1)

    2000-08: Italy 5, Germany 5, France 5, Portugal 4, Spain 3, Greece 3, Netherlands 2, Turkey 2, Russia 1, Czechia 1 (World Cups: Brazil 3, Italy 3, Germany 3, France 2, South Korea 1, Portugal 1, Turkey 1)

    2010-18: Spain 6, Germany 6, France 5, Portugal 4, Netherlands 3, Croatia 2, Italy 2, Belgium 1, Wales 1, England 1 (World Cups: Germany 4, Spain 3, France 3, Netherlands 3, Croatia 2, Argentina 2, Uruguay 1, England 1, Belgium 1, Brazil 1)

    Rankings by team per decade:

    Germany 1, 1, 1, 1=, 1=

    Italy 3=, 2=, 3=, 1=, 6=

    France N/A, 2=, 2, 1=, 3

    Netherlands 2, 4=, 5=, 7=, 5

    Portugal N/A, 8=, N/A, 4, 4

    Germany have never been beaten across a whole decade in this period. This was Italy's first decade outside the Top 3 and thus proof of decline. France have been top 3 or equal since bursting through in 1982. Portugal have become as big as Netherlands. Jury is out on whether Spain 2008-12 was a blip, albeit a very big one.
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 16-07-2018, 17:07.

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    Slightly adjust the scoring to 4-2-1 per tournament and Italy and France edge Germany for the 2000s and Spain still romp this decade based on just 2010 and 2012.
    Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 16-07-2018, 17:19.

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      #3
      And I think on the back of a beermat that mechanism would have the USSR on top in the 1960s.

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        #4
        Unless you give extra points to World Cups, which for the 60s would be warranted (but not later).

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          #5
          Yes, those European Championships in 1960 and 1964 come loaded with asterisks. But then, so would the first two World Cups in 1930 and 1934.

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            #6

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              #7


              FIFA ranking is provisional
              FUBAR = Floreat Ultonia Boolean Algorithm

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                #8
                Cheers, DG.

                Russia being 5th in Europe is an indictment of the depth of the field but I assume it won't last.

                Elo?
                Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 17-07-2018, 12:27.

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                  #9
                  Elo ratings (after the Hungarian mathematician) are based on those used in chess. FIFA are moving to a similar system

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                    #10
                    What do the numbers in the coloured boxes indicate? I can't fathom them out at all.

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                      #11
                      Ranking in each qualifying tournament. Obv only really relevant for non-qualifiers

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                        #12
                        Elo seems to recognise historical achievement while having a recency factor built in. Probably more subtle and up to date than FIFA's system.

                        No system can deal with the sudden collapse of the Netherlands.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                          Cheers, DG.

                          Russia being 5th in Europe is an indictment of the depth of the field but I assume it won't last.

                          Elo?
                          There you go.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                            Cheers, DG.

                            Russia being 5th in Europe is an indictment of the depth of the field but I assume it won't last.

                            Elo?
                            Is it me you're looking for?

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