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Originally posted by Pietro Paolo Virdis View Post
You think these things I'm saying are all sour grapes or something, but I have decidedly mixed feelings about England (both the country and the football team), and I'm certainly no patriot, let alone a nationalist - I did want them to win last night but not with any great thumping need. After the game I didn't have any emotional response, I just went to bed and fell asleep. Croatia deserved to win and I think pretty much everyone on OTF is entirely in agreement about that.
That whole thing above where you can overlook the nationalist triumphalism of whatever cross section of Croatian media is represented in that Guardian piece after the game, because it's after the game and somehow that makes it OK, is a bit beyond me, given your outright rage at some of what you've found in the UK media. It may well be that the pieces quoted in that article are as representative as The Sun and The Express, and if so, let us know.
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No, I mean I don't care venture deeper into what was said after the game and who said when.
I think you might be right. That Lovren said that. As a reaction to all ahead of the game that Croatia were there for the taking like you pluck olive from a branch. And it wouldn't be the first time someone in football has a big head.
When I thought about it, that clip is pointless and no proof at all he didn't say so because obviously the players walk through a mixed zone with like 50 journalists from as many countries.
What I mean with I don't care is not that I don't care what you say. I mean right now I don't care about anything beyond this happiness the day after we won a semi.
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TG, yes I have changed my number, a long time ago. Why would I ever ignore you?
You always have a place here. I've moved since we met last time, and there's always an extra room for you here.
send me a message here zvonko.katic@gmail.com
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Lovren made his comments in English, so it's not an issue of translation. You can watch the interview here (sorry, can't figure out the embed thing):
https://twitter.com/beINSPORTS/statu...67006574039041
Actually, it sounds a lot more reasonable coming out of his mouth than it does when transcribed. It's clear he's been hurt by the criticism of his abilities, and that's where the remarks are coming from..
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TG, help me remember who you met when we hooked up first time down in Barcelona. Was it Zeljko, Paco, Attila, who else?
Paco and Attila are running two of the finest restaurants in Gothenburg now. Zeljko is stuck home watching two kids.
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Back after a walk which has been like they've been several times these past weeks. Out the door just to get shit out of my brain and calm down. All of a sudden I'm somewhere not planned toward and have to find my cardinal directions. Like a zombie.
Meanwhile, came to think of it.
Lovren was out of the squad for quite a spell because he acted the cu**. Only when they changed to new manager was he allowed back in.
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If you want someone in the Croatian side to pick on, pick on Kalinic.
That bastard has been worthless in Milan. Refused to do his best in practice several times there, refused to come in when the Croatian coach called him up, several times. And now he will get a World Cup medal even though he was sent home before the group stage was over.
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Originally posted by Pietro Paolo Virdis View PostIf you want someone in the Croatian side to pick on, pick on Kalinic.
That bastard has been worthless in Milan. Refused to do his best in practice several times there, refused to come in when the Croatian coach called him up, several times. And now he will get a World Cup medal even though he was sent home before the group stage was over.
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Originally posted by Pietro Paolo Virdis View Postsend me a message here xxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com
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Doesn't matter now, G-Man. My name is well known since long before*. People have put it up here years ago. My mate who I miss, Jonathan, used to call me by name here. And other, and I really don't have anything to worry about. Not like I'll be bombarded with email from people here.
* I didn't mean that as in I'm popular or some fucking star. I just meant that as in how I wrote it.
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- Mar 2008
- 9759
- Tyne 'n' Wear (emphasis on the 'n')
- Dundee Utd, Gladbach, Atleti, Napoli, New Orleans Saints, Elgin City
So now that Ursus has provided her name I can repeat my schoolboy joke from the prediction thread- is Macron going to try to Grab-her Kitarovic..?
If so she should ruffle his carefully assembled combover
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I'm not sure I get why this is such an important statistic. After all, a goal scored is a goal scored - and this has been England's goal-scoringest World Cup finals ever. Can anyone expand on why it should be vital to score a higher percentage from open play?
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Ok, so why shots from open play versus shots from set pieces?
What irks me, perhaps unreasonably, is a general sense among all the commentary on TV and online that England needed to solve the problem right away if they were to stand any chance. Realistically, an inability to break teams down in open play is unlikely to be solved in a few weeks at a World Cup. Club sides can take months or even years to overcome that problem and its usually rooted in personnel as much as it is tactics and playing style.
That notwithstanding, England were not as bad in that department as is being made out - their problem was being clinical enough to score when they did create.
If set pieces are a team's strength, which is undoubtedly so for England, I see it less as limiting options and more gaining an edge by trying to capitalise on it.
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Originally posted by SouthdownRebel View PostI'm not sure I get why this is such an important statistic. After all, a goal scored is a goal scored - and this has been England's goal-scoringest World Cup finals ever. Can anyone expand on why it should be vital to score a higher percentage from open play?
the thing is that england managed to do this once in the five games where they scored the first goal from a set piece. The thing to take from this is that aside from being really good at scoring goals from set pieces, England played basically the same muck football that they always do, every bit as uninspired as in 2010. They just were collecting these free goals, and most of their opponents were awful. Well done to England for being good at set pieces, but that's only a detail in what southgate was trying to do, which was to give them a vaguely functional style of possession play, and he got no nearer to it than capello or sven.
The reason ultimately for dwelling on how few goals they scored from open play, is that a team with a front four of Kane, sterling, Alli and lingard is picked to score lots of goals from open play. Particularly wth two wing backs able to get the ball into the box. on the one hand, England got to the semi final, but on the other hand they fell so massively short of what they were trying to do, that it's hard to be too impressed with the golden waistcoat. He's just a well spoken, plausible mediocrity.
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