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Originally posted by Pietro Paolo Virdis View PostI don't.
Look, to not want Saudi Arabia winning a single game, that was easy. They're beheading people in the country. Have mass executions and a few years ago a woman was sentenced to death for fucking witchcraft, because she was in possession of some bloody talisman. And then there's all the rest with Yemen, cunts being sneaky funding terrorism, uncivil no rights, you can make a long list.
But this shit people wanting out of EU, it's nothing. The worst part about it all is that most people now on the barricades against people who want out of Brussels bureaucracy, they were on the barricades against Brussels bureaucracy when the questions was should UK enter EU at all. Seriously, what a bunch of hipocrita. First you * shout your mouth off you absolutely don't want in, then you shout your mouth off everybody else is racist who wants out. It's a joke.
Edit: * not you per se
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Brexit was not a sincerely held set of logical arguments about economic pros and cons but an appeal to racism and ignorance, unlike the 1972-1975 left-wing objections.
But a lot of those Brexit cunts would also have objected to a large percentage of the England squad's ancestors being allowed to settle in the UK.
I was a member of the ABE for a long time because, despite being English, I felt alienated from the culture in which I was raised and still do. But I can see in Southgate and his players an attempt to build on the more positive things that English culture also contains, which has included a willingness to be open to new things and not stay stuck in a failed set of attitudes.
As I've said before, imagine if Allardyce were still in charge. I'd be an ABE if there was any prospect of that cunt taking England to a final through a ridiculously easy half of a draw. But Allardyce would have lost that shoot-out v Colombia.
Southgate is The Beatles to Allardyce's Bernard Manning.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 06-07-2018, 12:45.
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Originally posted by ChrisJ View PostWell, I don't think there's anyone on OTF who doesn't understand the horrible nature of Tory-voting England or the Welsh/Scottish Tory, DUP-supported UK government. Or Franchise FC or Delle Alli in his adult incarnation for that matter.
But to hold your view on May/Putin you'd have to believe there's no significant difference in degree. And you'd have to ignore the untrammelled power and overwhelming level of support Putin's enjoyed for 18 years to produce the current state of the Russian health service. That's without bothering with his policy in Chechnya, Ukraine, the baltic states, Syria, the internet, etc. Or the fact that over the 2013-2017 period, Russia exported 4x as many arms as the UK. (Amazing what you can find with Google, eh?!) And you'd have to believe that you'd be better off in Russia as a journalist, a dissident, LGBT person or in police custody. I don't, TBH.
(Nor have you or anyone else convincingly shown that Tory shitbaggery would be any worse in the vanishingly unlikely event of England winning a football pot, but that one's been done to death on another thread.)
It would probably be an interesting discussion to have with you, and I'm sure I'd learn a lot, but as any kind of disagreement is currently leading Ray to post like an aggressive, supercilious cunt, I think I'll leave this thread for the AEB.
The war on Syria was planned in London, with the current chaos, destruction and sectarian strife being the focus of that project. I would refer you to the statements made by former foreign affairs minister Roland Dumas, who has stated that the Syrian project was planned in London years before the start of armed conflict in 2011. The UK/US/Israel have far more blood on their hands than Russia does. The wars on Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya have killed over two million people and counting.
For a British or American football fan to boycott this tournament on the grounds of Russia's foreign policy is the pinnacle of naivety. Until you get Corbyn to run your country, you simply have no leg to stand on there.
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I think it's time to admit this time England is really on fire, entitled fuckwittery from fans and media aside, they are doing it in such a way that ABEism is almost petty. Defeat in the final against France i reckon...
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