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    European Championships All-Time Ranking

    Here's an all-time ranking of European championships from 1960-2012. The points are awarded as follows:

    Winner: 5 points
    Losing finalist: 3 points
    Semi-finalist: 2 points
    Last 8 losers: 1 point

    No points are carried forward in the case of countries that broke up -- USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. Serbia gets the point it earned when it called itself Yugoslavia. Tie-breaker for teams that are level on points is how many times they've won or the number of finals or semi-finals they have reached.

    1. FR Germany 29
    2. Spain 25
    3. USSR 20
    4. France 19
    5. Italy 17
    6. Netherlands 16
    7. Portugal 12
    8. Denmark 11
    9. Yugoslavia 10 (two finals)
    10. England 10
    11. Czechoslovakia 9
    12. Greece 7 (one title)
    13. Belgium 7
    14. Czech Republic 6
    15. Hungary 5
    16. Sweden 4 (one semi-final)
    17. Romania 4
    18. Turkey 3
    19. Russia 2 (one semi-final)
    20. Croatia 2
    20. Ireland 2
    22. Serbia 1
    22. Scotland 1
    22. Wales 1
    22. Bulgaria 1
    22. Luxembourg 1
    22. Austria 1

    Remarkably, no points for Switzerland or Poland, though one of them will join this list.

    #2
    European Championships All-Time Ranking

    Luxembourg's point, since you ask, was scored in 1964. They were knocked out by Denmark in a decider match, having drawn home and away. They were only 16 teams competing. The side Luxembourg eliminated in the first round was the Netherlands.

    Ireland earned half their points that year by beating Austria. They went on to lose to Spain (1-5 and 0-2).

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      #3
      European Championships All-Time Ranking

      Pedantically that last group of 6 should be at 22.

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        #4
        European Championships All-Time Ranking

        I see England (who have finished third twice and done nothing else) are ahead of two countries that have won it and two more that have been runners-up twice.

        Poland never qualified until 2008, so no surprise they have null points. Switzerland's record is terrible, no qualification until 1996, not a single win until 2008 (in a dead match against Portugal).

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          #5
          European Championships All-Time Ranking

          Also including World Cups since 1950:

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            #6
            European Championships All-Time Ranking

            I think Czechoslovakia and Czech Rep should be one team. It would overcome the anomaly of their being below England, whom they clearly surpassed in 1976 and whom they have remained ahead of ever since.

            Alternatively, you should weight USSR and Czech points against how many tournaments they were able to enter.

            If we weight by 'recency', giving higher points to post-19XX (choose as appropriate), we get the Top 4 that feels correct: Germany/Spain roughly tied for 1st, France/Italy for 3rd.

            All 6 seeds in 2016 are in the Top 13, and would be Top 10 if we believe Italy should have been seeded above Belgium.

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              #7
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              Borracho wrote: Poland never qualified until 2008, so no surprise they have null points. Switzerland's record is terrible, no qualification until 1996, not a single win until 2008 (in a dead match against Portugal).
              One of them will get a point in 2016 because they meet in the last 16.

              England's record is really for consistency of qualification. They get points for 1980, 1988 and 1992 despite not getting out of the group. 1968 and 1972 were kinda pre-historic compared to the current depth in the Euros.

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                #8
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                Satchmo, the majority of the Czech Republic side that won in 76 was Slovak. So you can't simply add them to the Czechs.

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                  #9
                  European Championships All-Time Ranking

                  Yes, that was my concern; same with the USSR, who in their glory days in the 1970s were dominated by Ukrainian players. And who knows how to divvy up Yugoslavia's points.

                  1968 and 1972 were kinda pre-historic compared to the current depth in the Euros.
                  Well, there are more countries involved, but by 1968 most (27) of the nations in UEFA were taking part in qualifying (the only time West Germany failed to proceed from their qualification group). By 1972, all 32 eligible countries were taking part.

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                    #10
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                    How have you scored 1980? Do all the non-finalists in the last 8 get 1 point, or are Italy and Czechoslovakia deemed semi-finalists as they went into the 3rd place playoff? The former probably deserve a "semi-finalist" tag, as they played Belgium in the last group game, that decided things. Czechoslovakia and Holland, in the other group, fought out a draw in their last game, but both had already lost to West Germany and neither could have qualified unless Greece had beaten the Germans, so it's hard to credit either as semi-finalists?

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                      #11
                      European Championships All-Time Ranking

                      Yeah, the third-place play-off sides were deemed semi-finalists.

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                        #12
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                        Etienne wrote: Satchmo, the majority of the Czech Republic side that won in 76 was Slovak. So you can't simply add them to the Czechs.
                        Thanks, I never knew that. With regard to USSR/Czech/Yugo points, I think there still has to be a weighting to account for the fact they finished in 1988, or at least there should be a note on what their ranking was at the end of 1988.

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                          #13
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                          Interesting idea. I will do that tomorrow, if I get a minute.

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                            #14
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                            Satchmo Distel wrote:
                            Originally posted by Etienne
                            Satchmo, the majority of the Czech Republic side that won in 76 was Slovak. So you can't simply add them to the Czechs.
                            Thanks, I never knew that. With regard to USSR/Czech/Yugo points, I think there still has to be a weighting to account for the fact they finished in 1988, or at least there should be a note on what their ranking was at the end of 1988.
                            I only found out this tournament. I think because the Czechs were more successful immediately after the split there may be a tendency to assume that they had been the driving force beforehand - which I think may have been true of the 80s team, but wasn't beforehand.

                            Janik can doubtless tell us more.

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                              #15
                              European Championships All-Time Ranking

                              If we take 1992 as a cut-off date to concide with the break-up of the three countries, we have the following standing:

                              1. USSR 20
                              2. Germany 19
                              3. Spain 13
                              4. Denmark 10
                              4. France 10
                              4. Italy 10
                              4. Netherlands 10
                              8. Yugoslavia 10
                              9. Chechoslovakia 9
                              10. Belgium 7
                              11. England 6
                              12. Hungary 5

                              and then lots of teams on 3 points or less.

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                                #16
                                European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                I think Sweden's all-time record should just be 3 points (1992 SF, 2004 QF).

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_at_the_UEFA_European_Football_Championship

                                Post-1992 I think it would be:

                                1. Spain 12
                                2. Germany, Portugal 10
                                4. France 9
                                5. Italy 7
                                6. Netherlands, Czech Rep, Denmark 6
                                9. Greece 5
                                10. England 4 (only 2 since 1996)

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                                  #17
                                  European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                  Satchmo Distel wrote: I think Sweden's all-time record should just be 3 points (1992 SF, 2004 QF).

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_at_the_UEFA_European_Football_Championship
                                  They get a point for playing in the quarters in 1964, when they were eliminated by the USSR (1-1, 1-3)

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                                    #18
                                    European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                    Portugal has now reached the last eight in every Euro since the extension of the tournament to 16 teams in 1996. That's six quarter-finals in succession (one final, to semi-finals, two QFs).

                                    The Netherlands had a six Last Eight sequence from 1988-2008

                                    Only Germany can top that, with seven successive Last Eight appearances, from 1972-96 (three wins, two finals, one semi-final, one Last Eight).

                                    The next best are USSR (five from 1960-76), and four each for France (1992-2004), Spain (1976-88) and Belgium (1972-84)

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                                      #19
                                      European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                      And here's the all-time table including only semi finals (four points for a win, two for reaching the final, one for the semi). In brackets the placing on the Last Eight table.

                                      1. (1) Germany 20
                                      2. (2) Spain 14
                                      3. (3) USSR 12
                                      4. (4) France 10
                                      5. (5) Italy 10
                                      6. (6) Netherlands 8
                                      7. (8) Denmark 6
                                      7. (11) Czechoslovakia 6
                                      9. (9) Yugoslavia 5
                                      10. (7) Portugal 5
                                      11. (12) Greece 4
                                      12. (14) Czech Rep 3
                                      12. (13) Belgium 3
                                      14. (15) Hungary 2
                                      14. (10) England 2
                                      16. (19) Russia 1
                                      16. (18) Turkey 1
                                      16. (16) Sweden 1

                                      Unsurprisingly, Germany is in a commanding lead there. The top six are unchanged, but England and Portugal take a drop without the QF points. Czechoslovakia rise by three places.

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                                        #20
                                        European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                        Revised Euro table

                                        1. FR Germany 31
                                        2. Spain 25
                                        3. France 22 (up one place)
                                        4. USSR 20 (down one)
                                        5. Italy 18
                                        6. Portugal 17 (up one)
                                        7. Netherlands 16 (down one)
                                        8. Denmark 11
                                        9. Yugoslavia 10 (two finals)
                                        10. England 10
                                        11. Czechoslovakia 9
                                        12. Belgium 8 (up one)
                                        13. Greece 7 (down one)
                                        14. Czech Republic 6
                                        15. Hungary 5
                                        16. Sweden 4
                                        17. Romania 4
                                        18. Wales 3 (up four)
                                        18. Turkey 3
                                        20. Russia 2
                                        21. Croatia 2
                                        21. Ireland 2
                                        23. Poland 1
                                        23. Serbia 1
                                        23. Scotland 1
                                        23. Bulgaria 1
                                        23. Luxembourg 1
                                        23. Austria 1

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                                          #21
                                          European Championships All-Time Ranking

                                          Clear top 6 became clear top 7. Portugal are top post 1992 and obviously this century.

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