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    Anyone But Spain

    I'm curious at to why it is thought that Llorente is the answer to a problem that Spain don't necessarily have at the moment.

    I would argue that playing cesc fabregas up front is sign of a manager, and a group of players with a serious problem, regardless of how well they are doing.

    He is good in the air but Spain rarely play with width and ever rarer still hit crosses into the box because it is such a random act.

    but the whole point is that we are saying that they would be more dangerous, more threatening and flexible, if they played with width, and with presence up front. You're saying they don't need to play with these things, because they're fine, and that any suggestion otherwise is heresy. And you tie the whole thing up with the idea that crossing the ball is so random as to be anathema. This completely ignores the fact that a substantial amount of spain's patient possession ends up with a midfielder taking a hail mary shot from outside the box, with essentially no chance of scoring.

    See it's this that gets me as I said earlier. Finding Spain a bit dull as G-Man said is one thing, telling the world how they could be oh so much more entertaining with absolutely no downside is another.

    Why? They didn't always play with six playmakers and no striker you know? I've seen barcelona hold the ball for almost an infinite amount of time with a midfield three of xavi, iniesta and busquets. What exactly do they need silva, fabregas and alonso on top of that as well? They won't lose anything by adding specialist forwards.

    Let's make them a bit more Premiership, that will do the trick. I bet Del Bosque and his players laugh at all these amateur tacticians out there telling them how to play their game

    That's curious, I didn't realise that attacking using width, pace, and the occasional cross were only to be associated with the premiership. I thought they were a universal part of football, one that barcelona and spain are turning their back on out of ideological insanity.

    The world is full of examples of organizations and belief systems and groups that thought they were the absolute dogs bollocks, and decided that one particular avenue that marked them out as unique was the path for them, eschewing all others, becoming increasingly ideologically dogmatic. It never works out well.

    Spain should be delighted with how good they are at passing the ball. They should use this as a basis to make them better at using all of the other possible approaches to score goals, instead of taking steps to make it less likely.

    Thirty eight odd wins, two draws and that defeat to Switzerland. No goals conceded in eight successive knock out games and still they get a kicking because every other team sets out to play for the lowest scoring defeat they can manage against them.

    you sound like giovanni trapattoni.

    They get a kicking because they set out to bore the fucking arse off us all, by hanging onto the ball for minutes on end without ever trying to do anything remotely constructive with it.

    I see they've picked negredo tonight. Does anyone know why?

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      Anyone But Spain

      It's almost like Del Bosque doesn't give a shit about what the armchair tacticians on OTF think about his tactics.

      I would argue that playing cesc fabregas up front is sign of a manager, and a group of players with a serious problem, regardless of how well they are doing.
      What's the problem, TAB? I mean I can see why people think that they are boring however much I disagree with them but it isn't really a problem per se.

      They have had no reason to change their tactics yet and have plenty of options, as you have outlined, if they need to.

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        To prove a point? That it doesn't matter who plays up front?

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          Bored of Education wrote: Of course, France had a similar reinvention through Clairefontaine after their shorter period in the wilderness and I know that the expectation is that Spain will have a similar decline when this present team breaks up. I am not sure.

          Funnily enough, the decade that France were in the wilderness is equal to the amount of time it took Burton to be built and England are certainly the next candidates for such a reinvention.
          England are still focusing their eggs in the wrong basket. All this money is going on Burton and the EPPP, but it's all aimed at kids aged 11 and over. All the qualified coaches will still be with professional teams, rather than teaching kids at schools and kids leagues.

          Bryaniek wrote: What is Burton?
          It's the FA's new centre of excellence.

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            All the money is going to the over-11s, DA, but the review is fairly progressive for under 11s

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