Holland v Portugal; Denmark v Germany

[anton pulisov]

Holland v Portugal; Denmark v Germany

The Euro 2012 final will be at the Olympic Stadium in Kiev. And the Euro 2016 final at Stade de France.

And the WC 2014 final will be at Maracana, which owes the distance from the stands to the pitch to the fact that there was once a running track.

And of course the 2018 WC final will be at the Luzhniki in Moscow.

[Duncan Gardner]

Holland v Portugal; Denmark v Germany

Bryaniek wrote: But for the sake of this argument we exclude the North Korean population from the analysis

Very droll. It's a bit silly gurning that your country has only four million people when a third of its international players are from abroad.

Still, at least all your ringers speak the same language. Contrast the Poles with their hotch-potch of French, Germans and the odd Brazilian.

[anton pulisov]

Holland v Portugal; Denmark v Germany

But if we use the population of the whole island then we can't do a proper analysis, because of the two teams thing. E.g. how far would they have gotten in 1982...

[beak]

Holland v Portugal; Denmark v Germany

jim w wrote: So, who next after van Marwijk?

Any of our Dutch posters wish to comment on these rumours that Ruud Gullit is in the running for the job? Am I not getting something? Is this an example of the lesser-spotted Dutch sense of humour?