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    #26
    Based on the current standings I extrapolate the Padres season finishing 0-162. Anything better than that should be considered a success.

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      #27
      I was amused by Chris "Mad Dog" Russo (who surprisingly didn't honor his pledge to retire if the Diamondbacks beat the Phillies in the NLCS) saying Cronenworth needed to make that play when he didn't catch the ball because the webbing of his glove broke

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        #28
        I have mixed feelings about this season starting in South Korea. I totally understand the desire to expand the audience for baseball and the pool of possible talent. And there are 162 games, which is a long season. But starting with games at 6am doesn't do much to garner excitement at the beginning of the season.

        I'd probably prefer to see something where the all-star break leads into a lot of international series. Players get a few days off, then they would do the London series, the series in Mexico City, a series in Cuba, a series in the DR, a series in Japan, a series in Montreal, etc. All of those would happen after the All-Star break. Then players would come back and maybe have a few days to deal with short jet lag. Just thinking out loud here. Back to Korea,

        I'll take the win although I only watched 1.5 innings on delay on MLB Network and developed no clear sense of the game from that time.

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          #29
          The Dodgers have sacked the interpreter, who was,.as he always is, in the dugout with Ohtani throughout today's game

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            #30
            Shifting stories and Ohtani's name on at least two wire transfers of half a million dollars.

            This is an absolute mess

            The Los Angeles Dodgers interpreter for Shohei Ohtani was fired Wednesday afternoon after questions surrounding at least $4.5 million in wire transfers sent from Ohtani's bank account to a bookmaking operation set off a series of events.

            Ippei Mizuhara, the longtime friend and interpreter for Ohtani, incurred the gambling debts to a Southern California bookmaking operation that is under federal investigation, multiple sources told ESPN. How he came to lose his job started with reporters asking questions about the wire transfers.

            Initially, a spokesman for Ohtani told ESPN the slugger had transferred the funds to cover Mizuhara's gambling debt. The spokesman presented Mizuhara to ESPN for a 90-minute interview Tuesday night, during which Mizuhara laid out his account in great detail. However, as ESPN prepared to publish the story Wednesday, the spokesman disavowed Mizuhara's account and said Ohtani's lawyers would issue a statement.

            "In the course of responding to recent media inquiries, we discovered that Shohei has been the victim of a massive theft, and we are turning the matter over to the authorities," read the statement from Berk Brettler LLP.

            The spokesman declined to answer any further questions, and the statement did not specify whom they believe perpetrated the alleged theft.
            https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...er-fired-theft

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              #31
              What a mess.

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                #32
                It is difficult when you fire the guy who would explain it.

                which, funny absurdity aside, Ohtani is notoriously quiet and close to his chest trustworthy of few people. Of which this guy was one.

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                  #33
                  I fear that after this investigation, it will come out that the guy was taking the fall for Ohtani. But maybe it's the lingering affects of Bauer.

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                    #34
                    Oooh. Just spotted that this is happening now, top of the 9th. Looks like I've missed a lot of action.

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                      #35
                      Machado goes boom to make it 15-11

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                        #36
                        Muncy with 3 errors. As I wrote in my predictions post, this defense is a concern. Too many guys out of position. It's one bad game. There will be others, but I fear that Muncy's defense is going to be an issue.

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                          #37
                          They gave one of those to Outman for the throw.

                          On the other hand, Mookie deserved one in the ninth.

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                            #38
                            Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean, anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?

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                              #39
                              Originally posted by danielmak View Post
                              I fear that after this investigation, it will come out that the guy was taking the fall for Ohtani. But maybe it's the lingering affects of Bauer.
                              Unless Ohtani bet on baseball or fed inside information to gamblers, I don’t think this is really a big story.

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                                #40
                                Ray Ratto:

                                https://defector.com/mlb-has-a-gambl...-ohtani-doesnt

                                If this seems vague to you, it's because at the executive level, the truth isn't really the point. All the principals are pot-committed to Ohtani as a moneymaker, cultural icon, and active ballplayer. The twist comes with Ohtani's proximity to the gambling part because MLB needs them both even as they work against each other's interests. It did not help any of the principals that Mizuhara invoked the sacred name of DraftKings in his initial statement of culpability, given that DraftKings is now a de facto part-owner of American sport. It definitely didn't help Ohtani that Bowyer allegedly didn't mind Ohtani's name on the wire transfers. It is also worth noting that the bets were made in California, where sports wagering still isn't legal and unlikely to become so any time soon because of the difficulty in getting such a bill through the legislature without changing the state constitution.

                                In short, everyone is guilty of something here even if it’s just stupidity, but nobody knows quite who and what are linked. It feels like a story that may eventually die, if only because so many are incentivized to hold a pillow over its face until it stops struggling. We at least will get the answer to the question nobody has never asked, which is "Just how bulletproof is Shohei Ohtani?" Based on early returns, that answer is "As bulletproof as MLB needs him to be."
                                I think we're in a time period where gambling has become so widespread and normalized, with advertisements on constantly and sports media talking about gambling like it is a normal thing for them to cover while at the same time, as Ratto says, it is still illegal in places. We don't have ads on national TV for marijuana even though it's legal in some states. And there's still the issue that leagues are relying on revenue from an activity that they will ban players for engaging in, as we've seen in European soccer--it's so exciting and easy for fans to get in on the action, but if a player does the same thing they're going to call the legitimacy of the sport into question. It's not a great situation.

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                                  #41
                                  The apps are real tight on this though. All my Wisconsin colleagues delight on visiting the Chicago office as they get to gamble. Won’t let you in with a chance when your phone is not in the right state.

                                  It is a big jump to deniability.

                                  Why the illegal gambling guy didn’t care who wired him the massive sums of money?!? Yeah, really. All the illegal gambling folk I know have really care about sticking to other rules…

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                                    #42
                                    I don’t see a particular problem with banning players from gambling even as the teams promote it.

                                    Athletes gambling is like insider trading.


                                    Why is it so hard for the gambling lobby to make sports betting happen in California? Is there just not enough economic desperation? Is it also banned at the native casinos there?
                                    Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 21-03-2024, 22:26.

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                                      #43
                                      Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                                      Why is it so hard for the gambling lobby to make sports betting happen in California? Is there just not enough economic desperation? Is it also banned at the native casinos there?
                                      Both online and in-person (at casinos or otherwise) is illegal. There's been a few ballot initiatives about online sports betting which have all failed, partially because the native casino groups were united against them, essentially because they don't want to have gambling in California where they're not getting their cut. (Which tbh I have a hard time begrudging them that.)

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                                        #44
                                        They could get a cut by putting sports books in their casinos.

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                                          #45
                                          That would require the renegotiation of their compacts with the state, which tribes are generally wary to do lest the state ask for more in return.

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                                            #46
                                            There’s enough money to go around, I’d think.

                                            IIRC, gaming interests in Nevada also supported astroturf opposition to the tribal casinos in California.

                                            The point is that the horse is very far out of the barn now. Californians are betting on sports. The state might as well get s piece.

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                                              #47
                                              It is really weird to normalize to the fact that the US is going to go through massive gambling addiction problems over the next ten years. It is such an odd real-time puritanical collapse.

                                              I get encouraged to gamble with bonuses so often on the app I signed up to. I did it for the Superb Owl (backed KC - won). I got $200 of bonus bets to use in a week which was an awful struggle for me but could be a massive hook for others. I couldn’t invent bets enough to use them all.

                                              i haven’t bet since. I might on some things when it seems fun. But I am really fortunate that this isn’t a trigger for me and I know it is for a *massive* number of people. It isn’t much different than giving folk a free hit of heroin.

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                                                #48
                                                TLR - moving from the very restricted gambling world to legalizing gambling is going to cause a massive amount of mental health problems the US is already renowned to ignore.

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                                                  #49
                                                  I think that has more to do with growing inequality and social isolation than Draftkings, although the availability of sportsbooks will have some impact. The upside is that it will be easier to regulate if it is legal.

                                                  Gambling has been rampant in the US as long as the US has been a country, but in more recent decades, so many casinos have opened in so many places that it’s accessible everywhere.

                                                  Sports gambling has been around, and largely socially acceptable, for as long as I can recall. Remember Jimmy the Greek?

                                                  We used to see those cheesy ads for touts. My fifth grade teacher made a comfortable living giving gambling advice, specializing in college football.


                                                  Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 22-03-2024, 02:54.

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                                                    #50
                                                    I found ex-lawyer Calcaterra's analysis to be thorough

                                                    https://cupofcoffee.beehiiv.com/p/cu...RRRUxU5W_nMR4I

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