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    NYJ: the Ultimate Darkness Retreat - NFL 23-24

    Detroit continue to improve, but the Chiefs' offence is in strife without Kelce.

    Not only has his absence created a huge hole in their passing game, but the drama seems to have resulted in the other receivers forgetting how to catch the ball.

    #2
    That was indeed a surprising result, but maybe this should join the existing thread.

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      #3
      Yes

      Snske, please consolidate when you have a minute. I didn't realise thatone had been started.

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        #4
        Just change the title to 24-25 and we're set for next year.

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          #5
          I don’t pretend to know anything going on in his head, or if he’s waiting for Brian Daboll to get fired after an 0-3 start and having John Mara hand him the keys to the Giants, but Belichick to the Niners as DC would be quite the scary.

          https://amp.marca.com/en/nfl/san-fra...aa98b45c5.html

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            #6
            The NFL Players Association "report cards" rating clubs' facilities and personnel are out and are quite striking.

            https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024

            The Raiders really, really hated Josh McDaniel, and the Bengals and Chiefs are very unimpressed with their facilities, but extremely impressed with their coach.

            It isn't hard to see which ratings are most important in terms of correlating with on-field results (the two time champions are 31st out of 32 overall).

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              #7
              As I understand it, the players' issues with their training and medical staff are most likely about the number of people on the staff, and not necessarily the quality of the people that are there. The players will want to increase the minimum number of trainers in the next CBA.

              If a star player had a real issue with any of those people, they'd be out.


              This also reflects the arms race in college football facilities. A lot of these guys voting have never played for another NFL team, or maybe just one or two others, so a lot of their expectations for what the cafeteria, etc, should be like is based on their experience in college or even high school.
              Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 29-02-2024, 20:18.

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                #8
                Fields is going to Atlanta <unconfirmed but seeming significantly more likely>. Da Bears are gonna trash another top rated QB out of the draft.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by caja-dglh View Post
                  Fields is going to Atlanta <unconfirmed but seeming significantly more likely>. Da Bears are gonna trash another top rated QB out of the draft.
                  Ha - well that aged well.

                  Cousins gets a massive contract at Atlanta. I said last season that he comes across as a great guy. Which is fine and well, but at the end of this he will be a top 5 salary NFL player of all time. That is a lot of money for a guy in his 30s with one (1) play-off win.

                  The Broncos are paying for Russell Wilson to play at Pitt, where he might do quite well as they have this novel thing they do of having an offensive line.

                  That leaves the Vikings and Raiders the main places looking for a QB if the Bears shift Fields on.

                  The Eagles are making moves and paying Running Backs, maybe just to troll the Giants. Big gamble on whether Saiquon can stay healthy, but Philly do well with RBs.

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                    #10
                    Cousins’ deal is worth $180 million over four years, including $100 million guaranteed, according to a league source. He gets a $50 million signing bonus, $45 million per year in 2024 and ’25, plus another $10 million in 2026."
                    QB money in the league is just wild​

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                      #11
                      The Raiders are reportedly signing Minishew, so da Bears may be screwed

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                        #12
                        Wilson is the same age and has won nine playoff games (9-7 vs 1-4).

                        Wilson is costing $1.2m this year for the Steelers. Versus the $95m Atlanta just punted on Kirk.

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                          #13
                          The Steelers pulled off the heist of the century

                          Wilson also should be more comfortable in their offence

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                            #14
                            See also Baker Mayfield'a three-year, $100 million contract worth up to $115 million in incentives and $50 million guaranteed

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                              The Raiders are reportedly signing Minishew, so da Bears may be screwed
                              First round pick to kill Caleb Williams, unless he pulls an Elway/Manning.

                              The Jets show some remarkable basic competency in picking up Tyrod Taylor as our QB2 in free agency. His career stats would make him one of the best quarterbacks we'd ever had if he had been playing for us down the years...

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                                #16
                                New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers is on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s short list to be his running mate on an independent presidential ticket in November, the New York Times reported Tuesday.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                  The Steelers pulled off the heist of the century

                                  Wilson also should be more comfortable in their offence
                                  He will probably be an upgrade, but possibly not much of one. However, the Broncos are paying most of his salary.

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                                    #18
                                    The Steelers are paying him about 2.5 percent of what the Falcons are paying Cousins

                                    The heist characterisation is grounded entirely in his salary and cap hit.

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                                      #19
                                      Right - for what is out there Wilson at that price is a steal compared to any QB in the league. Sure he has been fading but he remains very capable and might excel with the right set up. Even if it doesn't work he is cheaper than a mid tier Field Goal kicker.

                                      In fact - he is roughly 1/4 of the annual cost of Greg Zuerlein.
                                      Last edited by caja-dglh; 13-03-2024, 02:07.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                        The Steelers are paying him about 2.5 percent of what the Falcons are paying Cousins

                                        The heist characterisation is grounded entirely in his salary and cap hit.
                                        If he succeeds, I suspect we may see a new rule that prevents this type of deal in the future.

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                                          #21
                                          The "rule" would be that QBs stop getting huge guaranteed contracts. It is a relatively recent massive lock-in, mastered by.... Kirk Cousins' agent.

                                          It will head that way. Cleveland, Denver and others have given themselves huge problems by over-guaranteeing.

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                                            #22
                                            I meant the Steelers paying way below market value just because the Broncos agreed to take a bath on the whole Russell deal and move on.

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                                              #23
                                              I don't see how you can legislate against that given the contract

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                                                #24
                                                If you guarantee money, fire the player and then expect to be able to influence what they choose to get paid after that... fun lawsuit coming there.

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                                                  #25
                                                  It wouldn’t work like that. They could say that the new team has to pay “market value” or at least a third of the previous salary or something like that.



                                                  Apparently, the NHL has a rule like that for coaches. Coaches who get fired before their contract is up - all of them, essentially - will get paid the rest of the contract, but the contract says that if they get a new job, the old team only has to pay an offset, or if the new deal is worth more, the old team doesn’t pay at all.

                                                  To prevent teams from hiring guys on another team’s dime, they have to pay them a normal salary.
                                                  Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 13-03-2024, 03:05.

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