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  • Ray de Galles
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    There'll be a certain symmetry about England tying both the World Cup Final and The Ashes series then getting the trophy for one but not the other.
    Last edited by Ray de Galles; 14-09-2019, 11:57.

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  • Jon
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    Yes, satchmo. I thought i must have misremebered so thanks for correcting me.

    think it was Harris who dropped that relatively easy slip catch last night. not a good day for him as he had failed once again with his batting earlier on.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Lyon's eighth wicket since Edgbaston so not quite that bad.

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...g;view=innings

    England made 54 for the opening wicket. OTOH they had an escape last night, probably caused by a slip fielder not picking up the ball in fading light.
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 14-09-2019, 11:05.

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  • Jon
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    Yes, i knew I'd jinx it. Burns out for 20. lyon's first wicket since when? Edgbaston?

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  • Jon
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    Dare i say it but England look well set today to build a significant lead. Even Joe denly is looking good.

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  • slackster
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    Apart from the deafening chatter in the stands and beered up bantertastic blokes spilling their pints every 15 minutes, yesterday was a very good day at the Test. The England bowlers always carried a threat, and though a man-flu suffering Steve Smith top scored and was at the crease for much of the day, even he didnít look completely assured. A last ball review let off for England gives them a good chance on building on a good day for us.

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  • ad hoc
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
    Highest opening partnership of the series is 27. That might go today.
    Can't see that happening (though by the end of the day both sides will have had a crack at it)

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Warner is a ferret rather than a rabbit.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Highest opening partnership of the series is 27. That might go today.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Very good effort by England's attack.

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  • Guy Profumo
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    And Jofra Archer

    Hero to hero.

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  • Guy Profumo
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    Jack Leach.

    Hero to goat.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
    I know Root has been well below his best (for a couple of years now) but he's still got over 300 runs this series. I wouldn't make him captain of this composite side but I'd still put him in it. He might have to bat at 5, or worse, open, to make way for Labuschagne and Smith, mind you.
    Yes, and his knock at Headingley made Stokes' innings possible.

    Australia are having 5th Test syndrome here, even though it's not a dead rubber as I mistakenly asserted yesterday. Or they've just been found out to be a moderate side whose superiority to England is significant but not massive (2-2 flatters England but 3-2 might be a fairer score than 3-1 if England do convert this lead into a win).
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 13-09-2019, 16:36.

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  • Gangster Octopus
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    Smith's fallen for a mere 80...

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  • ad hoc
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    I know Root has been well below his best (for a couple of years now) but he's still got over 300 runs this series. I wouldn't make him captain of this composite side but I'd still put him in it. He might have to bat at 5, or worse, open, to make way for Labuschagne and Smith, mind you.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Someone would have to keep wicket so Paine would probably survive as specialist keeper + captain. Burns might have done enough as opener and you could have Stokes just as a batsman.

    When the series stats are finalized, Smith and Labuschagne really are going to be the difference between the teams. Australia's bowling attack would have had no runs to play with otherwise. The others are averaging around 20 per player so Australia would only get around 400 per Test from their 20 wickets.
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 13-09-2019, 16:28.

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  • San Bernardhinault
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    The composite team of the series might have 9 bowlers, Smith and Labuschagne.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    The composite team of the series would have about seven bowlers in it.

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  • Etienne
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    Rogin, averaging 100+ in a series is exceptional, but not freakish. Smith has done it before, of course, in an Ashes series, and Cook did it in 2010-11. So even in recent Ashes history it's not unprecedented.

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  • Etienne
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    Joe Denly gets in a composite team of the series as an opener. That's how bad the Australian openers have been. In fact, you could easily make the case that only four Aussies make a composite team (Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins & Hazelwood) on pure stats, though Lyon would get in too to balance the attack.

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  • Rogin the Armchair fan
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    Smith needs another 15 after lunch to guarantee an average of 100 for the series. Phenomenal. How frequent is it for a batsman to average 100+ in a 3-match or more series? We have to include 3 match series to be fair as Smith will only have completed 7 innings in this one.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Kevin S View Post
    It kind of makes the loss of the Ashes even more dispiriting though - we couldn't even beat a team with a rabbit for an opener.
    Three rabbits as openers.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
    I saw that too. Iíd love to know how somebody figures stats like that out so quickly.
    There is a comprehensive database of Test statistics that can provide all kinds of insights if one is adept at writing queries.

    There have been fewer Test Matches in all of history than there are MLB games in a single season.

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  • Kevin S
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    It kind of makes the loss of the Ashes even more dispiriting though - we couldn't even beat a team with a rabbit for an opener.

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  • Sporting
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    I would guess that Warner gets one home test or maybe two.

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