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  • Ray de Galles
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    It's not the first dismissal reversed due to a no ball from a spinner this series, is it? I'm sure I've been shocked to see another one recently, unless it was a T20 match I've watched.

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  • ursus arctos
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    I think that we tend to have slower run ups

    I hadn't seen this before and am now willing to subscribe to VT's newsletters for crimes this egregious

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Is there a specific reason it's actually worse for a left arm spinner to overstep than another kind of spinner?

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  • Vicarious Thrillseeker
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    Don't I know it......

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  • ursus arctos
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    Lefties are different, VT

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  • Vicarious Thrillseeker
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    I hope that you are only applying that rule to professionals, as otherwise my time may soon be up.
    A bowler who literally walks up to bowl. Like the extra centimetre makes a difference. I am beside myself

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  • ursus arctos
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    I hope that you are only applying that rule to professionals, as otherwise my time may soon be up.

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  • Vicarious Thrillseeker
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    Any left arm spinner no-balled for overstepping should be taken outside the gates and shot.

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  • Capybara
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    England taking that advice to extremes, there.

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  • pebblethefish
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    AAAAAAGGHHHH!!!!!!

    (That was the no ball, by the way)

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  • E10 Rifle
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    Yeah agree. He's looked even better here than at Edgbaston. England have bowled Ok today

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    I don't really think that England should keep on trying to get Smith out. He's too good. They should just try to limit his strike and focus on the other 10.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Smith's consistency is amazing.

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  • Rogin the Armchair fan
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    Wade gone, but Smith still there and heading for another ton not out. He's been applauding Leach's spinning, as if to say "that was a good one mate. Not good enough, but well tried".

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  • Duncan Gardner
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    RdG- sure, we've all heard it over and again and probably become more accepting- but much of that is down to lax or inconsistent stewarding. If they did step up this time, good on them.

    This sort of incident often features a range of misbehavior, from witless chanting through abuse of other spectators, players and stewards to racism/ criminality. The first tends to lead directly to the second. Follow a yellow card with repeat offences and you can expect to walk...

    Agree generally with Satch above

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    They'd have to evict half the Western Terrace on those criteria, but I think the key is whether the barrackers are an isolated minority whose views are offensive to the majority, which would not be the case at Leeds.

    The racist aspect is in the eye of the beholder, but the usual rule is to take the recipient's perspective. If Archer suspected a racial motive, I would go with that.

    Obviously there's no consistency - e.g. the crowd reaction to Smith's concussion, which could easily have become something far more serious, even fatal, led to no evictions AFAIK.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Duncan Gardner View Post
    I imagine they were threatened with eviction when other fans complained to the stewards, who then called the Police when they wouldn't shut the fuck up . So yes, they deserved to be thrown out. The same would apply to the England fans chanting that La Boosh can't speak English etc etc
    I did wonder about that but the (unattributed) quote doesn't give us any more info (I think it might be from Paul Hayward who mentions the incident on Twitter but I'd be surprised if he was anywhere near it when it happened).

    On the information above alone, an expulsion seems OTT. I've seen and heard more than enough prolonged boorish barracking of players at test matches by people who "wouldn't shut the fuck up" without any kind of sanction being taken.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    A quick shot of the crowd shows one guy has come dressed as a Barbie doll, complete with cardboard packaging.

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  • Duncan Gardner
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    I imagine they were threatened with eviction when other fans complained to the stewards, who then called the Police when they wouldn't shut the fuck up . So yes, they deserved to be thrown out. The same would apply to the England fans chanting that La Boosh can't speak English etc etc

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Tony C View Post
    "The two Australia fans who were ejected by police after abusing Jofra Archer got what they deserved. “Jofra, show us your passport,” they shouted, and “enjoy your visit to England.” The pair topped it off with chants of “Barbados, Barbados, Barbados.”
    Is this really enough to warrant being thrown out of a match? Is there an insinuation that the abuse was racist?

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  • pebblethefish
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    You can afford to spend 20 minutes talking about Smith's oddities, because you know he's going to bloody be there all day, so there'll still be ample time to talk about everything else.

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  • diggedy derek
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    Yes, DG. TMS has some great voices at the moment, but it periodically has a tendency to rest on its laurels.

    Archer has just bowled his first 90 plus mph ball since Lords, if the speed gun is to be believed.

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  • Duncan Gardner
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    @TC- sadly a lot of oafs go to cricket, get pissed and become abusive. Archer, Labuschagne and Stokes are getting the brunt of it because of their background

    @DD- Agnew's schtick- basically 'Yes, I know I'm a Tory bore who's been phoning it in for years- but listen to Boycott ha ha' needs replacing. I'm not being ageist, he's just tedious
    Last edited by Duncan Gardner; 05-09-2019, 11:12.

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  • diggedy derek
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    I'm feeling angry this morning. TMS has been going for 20 minutes, and Agnew has been talking without interruption about how strange a batsman Smith is, his antics, how "crazy" he is, how he could be on Strictly Come Dancing, how England need to come up with a game plan just to deal with how weird he is. There's an undertone I don't like at all.

    Firstly, he's talking about the best batsman of his generation, so as a journalist he is missing the point. Secondly, even if he was rubbish, people are different. However Smith chooses to behave it should not be mocked.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Weather forecast not great.

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