Martina, Caster, trans women athletes, and a Swiss cyclist

[ursus arctos]

It's very much like the bathroom "problem" at its core.

[seand]

But "in theory" a cis-male athlete could already have done this at any point in the last couple of decades, and they haven't. So why penalise real people in order to create a solution to a currently non-existent problem?

Isn't the problem that there is already a rule in place re testosterone levels (and that there's a fear that the reduced threshold could effectively exclude Caster)? I thought it was mentioned up-thread that the IAAF had reduced or were reducing the acceptable testosterone levels for their interpretation of who's allowed to compete in women's competition? Assuming the above post is correct the issue becomes whether the testosterone threshold should be removed

[Janik]

The Spanish Paralympic Basketball Team cheated in a similar way. But this was seen more of indictment of their sportsmanship than a fundamental flaw in the existence of Paralympic Basketball.

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

Fuck

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48102479

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

An IAAF's expert witness at the CAS court case has published a defence of the """science""" behind the Semanya decision - on alt-right, white supremacist, pro-eugenics website quillette. which probably tells you more about the Caster Semanya case than any amount of patient unpicking of the flimsy science behind the CAS decision.

[David Agnew]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48504205

A Swiss Court has suspended the IAAF ruling stating that Caster Semanya is the only athlete forced to take drugs in order to compete,

[G-Man]

The IAAF can play judicial Stalingrad, but Caster will win this at every higher instance.

[Janik]

Except at CAS. Which are above the IAAF, and whose ruling was suspended yesterday.

The appeal is presumably only possible on whether CAS erred in Swiss law, right? The basic facts are not up for judgement again.

[Janik]

Suspension of the ruling overturned. Baring another court decision (the appeal is still pending, the decision reversed was an interim one over whether the IAAFs rules should apply in the meantime), Semanya won't be at the Worlds.

[G-Man]

This will end up in the human rights courts. And when Caster wins in the final instance, I hope she'll sue the shit out of the IAAF..