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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Ken Owens played a lot on the wing for the Scarlets Ray. I think it's part of Pivac's thinking.

    Saw the reaction to Rory Best, thoroughly deserved for a very under rated player who was key to the way Ireland played. Not seem the Gatland reaction, hopefully he got a hundred times that of Best.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    A very enjoyable match between Wales and the Barbarians yesterday. A lot of open, running rugby from the Baa-Baas obviously and Wales responded in kind. A brace of tries each from Josh Adams and, more surprisingly, Ken Owens - though he did spend much of the game stationed on the wing.

    At 33-7 to Wales my son expressed disappointment that it looked like it was going to be a blowout (which made me glad that he seemed to get the ethos of a Barbarians game) but he needn't have worried as we were eventually pegged back to a 43-33 winning margin after draining the bench and getting a bit ragged in defence while the visitors kept throwing the ball around.

    A very healthy 62,000 plus crowd and very warm farewells to Gatland, McBryde and Rory Best. I don't think the afternoon told us much about Pivac's Wales but was well worth the trip.
    Last edited by Ray de Galles; 01-12-2019, 22:39.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    I presume the initial league would be 10 from the PRO14 and the 12 from England. With Italy and South Africa missing out.

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  • Rogin the Armchair fan
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    Does he think the Ospreys would be in it? Surely only in a 26/28 team setup that would have to be set up like the NFL, with divisions to ensure home and away fixtures between traditional rivals were maintained but some clubs only met once every three years except in playoffs?
    Ospreys chairman Rob Davies is confident a British and Irish league will be launched for the 2022-23 season, following investments from private equity company CVC.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Interesting article on Halaholo and the residency qualifications, following our discussions upthread.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Strong Welsh side for the Barbarians game with Tips as captain and McNicholl making his (non-cap) debut. Rory Best ends his farewell tour leading the Baa-Baas;

    Wales: Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets); Johnny McNicholl (Scarlets), Owen Watkin (Ospreys), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues); Jarrod Evans (Cardiff Blues), Tomas Williams (Cardiff Blues); Wyn Jones (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets), Justin Tipuric (capt, Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons).

    Replacements: Elliot Dee (Dragons), Rob Evans (Scarlets), Leon Brown (Dragons), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Ollie Griffiths (Dragons), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Sam Davies (Dragons), Owen Lane (Cardiff Blues).

    Barbarians: Shaun Stevenson (Waikoto Chiefs & Maori All Blacks); Dillyn Leyds (Stormers & South Africa), Mathieu Bastareaud (Lyon & France), Andre Esterhuizen (Natal Sharks & South Africa), Cornal Hendricks (Blue Bulls & South Africa); Curwin Bosch (Natal Sharks & South Africa), Bryn Hall (Crusaders & Maori All Blacks); Campese Maafu (Leicester Tigers & Fiji), Rory Best (capt, Ulster & Ireland), Wiehahn Herbst (Blue Bulls), Luke Jones (Melbourne Rebels & Australia), Tyler Ardron (Waikoto Chiefs & Canada), Pete Samu (ACT Brumbies & Australia), Marco van Staden (Blue Bulls & South Africa), Josh Strauss (Stade Francais & Scotland).

    Replacements: Schalk Brits (Blue Bulls & South Africa), Craig Millar (Sunwolves), Hencus van Wyk (Sunwolves), George Biagi (Zebre & Italy), Angus Cottrell (Melbourne Rebels), Jano Vermaak (Stormers & South Africa), Billy Meakes (Melbourne Rebels), Matt Duffie (Auckland Blues & New Zealand).

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  • ursus arctos
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    Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
    That sounds very promising, has any Tier One nation played in Uruguay yet, apart from Argentina who I presume must have.
    Not a full side (as opposed to a XV) outside of qualification. Uruguay have yet to beat Argentina at any venue.

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  • Rogin the Armchair fan
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    I don't know why you say goodbye Halaholo. Halaholo ...

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Fuck's sake! Our players get major injuries before they even pull on a jersey now :

    [URL]https://twitter.com/bbcsportwales/status/1199275232932052992?s=21[/URL]

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  • Ray de Galles
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    In related news, the Barbarians went to Brazil to play the national team in between their fixtures in England and Wales. The hosts won 47-22 in front of a crowd of 14,000.

    The main news from Sunday's European games were a couple of horrendous red card attacks by players for French clubs - a Vahaamahinaesque elbow in a maul from Montpellier's Du Plessis and repulsive eye gouge from Stade Rochelais's Bourgarit. Long deserved bans coming for both.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    That sounds very promising, has any Tier One nation played in Uruguay yet, apart from Argentina who I presume must have.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Penarol will be Uruguay's representative in the Super Liga Sudamericana - the continent's first fully professional competition.

    It is currently expected to feature one club from each of Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Chile and Colombia, though there are hopes that more clubs may join (including Nacional).

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Sale score a try against Stade Rochelais with a clear forward pass but take the conversion before the TMO points it out to the ref. The try is disallowed to huge disapproval from the Sale players and crowd but there are claims there has been a law change that means that can now be done even after a conversion is taken, which seems sensible if true.
    Last edited by Ray de Galles; 24-11-2019, 13:41.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    I hadn't noticed before tonight but there are multiple free streams of European Challenge Cup games here, seemingly every week.

    C4 have one live Champions Cup game per round again too, it appears to be the 1pm Saturday slot which is Saracens v Ospreys tomorrow. S4C have Cardiff v Leicester in the Challenge Cup at 8pm tomorrow too, which also appears to be a regular slot.

    Ulster v Clermont is about to enter it's final quarter on BT Sport right now, 13-3 to the hosts and the visitors have been absolutely toilet so far.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
    Stockdale's defence was something else. In real time it was amazing.
    I saw it live and still feel Bath screwed up a bit. I'm not sure if their 8 should have passed earlier, I'd like to have seen him hold the ball in to contact. I think he may have had the momentum to carry himself through the tackle and over.

    I suppose nobody could have expected Stockdale to get back and I'm being too harsh but it would nag at me if I was a Bath supporter.

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  • Janik
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    He's calling it as well. See how he points the player in the full back position to stand up the ball carrier and not attempt to cover and drift. He knows he has a chance of getting back to Rokoduguni and either tackling or intercepting. I wouldn't blame the no.8 for not expecting it and releasing earlier - how many times do you see players get cut out of the game and simply stop* rather than working their socks off to get back into an effective defensive position as Stockdale does? Very few others would have been. And anyway, the ball carrier has to commit what he thinks is the last man, to properly work the (he assumes) two on one. He arguably shouldn't release any earlier.

    * - in part because Stockdale was covering his own arse here. He flew up out of the line to try and end the move two passes earlier, which was a major gamble that backfired as he was fractionally too late. Because he did that, he was out of position which was why there seemingly was space wide! Avoiding apologising to 20 teammates for a sickening loss is a great motivator, I'm sure.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Stockdale's defence was something else. In real time it was amazing.

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  • ursus arctos
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    The way in which the entire matter is being treated, with no detailed explanation of the breaches or the remedies, is anything but transparent and extremely enervating.

    If the reports that the violations primarily involved co-investments by Wray in players' personal business vehicles are true, the unwinding of those arrangements is far from trivial.

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  • Rogin the Armchair fan
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    Bit like Man City's title in 2014, sticks in the craw that they're allowed to keep the last two Premierships. Although admittedly retrospectively awarding medals/titles does seem a bit of a pointless exercise too, and one that always comes with a mental asterisk. I still look at lists that say Carl Lewis won the 100m in 1987 and 1988 and think "no, he didn't".

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  • Ray de Galles
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    I watched Gloucester v Toulouse and Northampton v Lyon over the weekend. Toulouse came back from 20-9 down at half time (a lead the home side barely merited) to strangle Glaws in the second half and win very impressively 20-25. Lyon didn't turn up for the first half and were 19-0 down at the break, recovering slightly to 25-14 at full time.

    I saw little bits of Bath v Ulster which was largely a terrible scrappy game that Bath should have won in the final phase, I'm still not sure if this is great defence from Stockdale or a terrible butchering of a try from Bath :

    https://twitter.com/btsportrugby/status/1195718174123184129?s=20

    This was probably the best individual skill of the weekend, I've seen Ibitoye compared to a gridiron running back fro his set up :

    https://twitter.com/btsportrugby/status/1195784199992729600?s=20

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Premiership champions Saracens have confirmed they will not be contesting their points deduction and fine for breaching the league's salary cap.

    Still interested in if and how they can work within the salary cap this season though.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    I would say so. I hope it goes well, we need a strong Romanian side again.

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  • ad hoc
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    Ta. So he's a fairly big name (for Romania) then.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Robinson's a former coach of Bath, England, Edinburgh, Scotland and Bristol.

    He struggled in both of his previous international jobs (and had some bad luck too) and appears to have been out of work for two or three years. Interesting choice for Romania though.

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  • ad hoc
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    An English bloke called Andy Robinson has just been named coach of the Romanian national team. My knowledge of RU is so scant that his nationality is all I know (and that only because it was in the tweet I got it from). But anyway. Good luck to him

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