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  • Cal Alamein
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    and it was an insane David v. Goliath underdog moment as well as the actual amateur USA team v. the "amateur" Soviet team.

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  • Hot Pepsi
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    Originally posted by Cesar Rodriguez View Post

    I salute your curmudgeonly attitude - I agree.

    The problem with international sport is its always ruined by regimes exploiting victory for political purposes. Exhibit A: Miracle on Ice.

    As someone who studiously avoids mixing sport and politics its a real turn off.
    I don’t recall Jimmy Carter really exploiting the Miracle on Ice. ABC did.

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  • Flynnie
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    The snide arrogance of the media given the Springboks are full of mean, hairy Boers and are the current Rugby Championship winners, along with the proliferation of public schoolboys in the England squad, certainly brings to mind the Brexit negotiations.

    oh yeah, we’ve got this, easiest negotiations ever. Then SA come out, disrupt the scrum, tackle hard, earn the right to play wide, and smoke ‘em.

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  • elguapo4
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    God forbid Ireland ever win, their cheerleaders in the media are bad enough as it is.

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  • Cesar Rodriguez
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    Originally posted by Logan Mountstuart View Post
    Don't get me wrong. All my family are Union fanatics, be it Gloucester, Bath or Bristol. They're all lovely people, and they're all gutted. I played rugby pretty seriously at school, because where I lived you just did.

    But let's face it. Despite this being about the most normal and likeable England team I can remember, they are still the absolute litmus test in sport for Tory Cunt morale.

    So fuck your Boris Bounce.

    My hatred admittedly stems from living in France when the Carling/ Moore arrogant and efficient thing was in its rampant pomp, and from the bloody chariot song.

    But nearly everything I've heard over the past week has been about 10 point minimum winning margins and the start of a rugby dynasty.

    As someone said above: England doesn't deserve good things at the moment.

    I suppose I'm a bitter, negative old bastard. I'd have much rather seen Wales or Ireland win it than England.
    I salute your curmudgeonly attitude - I agree.

    The problem with international sport is its always ruined by regimes exploiting victory for political purposes. Exhibit A: Miracle on Ice.

    As someone who studiously avoids mixing sport and politics its a real turn off.

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  • Bordeaux Education
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    Originally posted by Logan Mountstuart View Post
    My hatred admittedly stems from living in France when the Carling/ Moore arrogant and efficient thing was in its rampant pomp, and from the bloody chariot song.
    Moore, of course, has come good in recent years (perhaps always was in private) culminating with him telling Johnson to fuck off - not to his face unfortunately - for his obvious bandwagon jumping congratulations video message.

    I took the Denis Law approach this morning and was initially going to have Parkrun as my round of golf but that got cancelled so had a lie-in and listened to Radio 4 instead. I can't, therefore, comment on the game but some of the punditry around it has been notable. Dawson's "If you could choose a combined XV from England and South Africa at this World Cup, you would choose all England players" was brilliantly dopey but the one that caught my eye was the one about "One game too far for England”. England had one game less to play and had a day more to relax and recover.

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  • Tony C
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    I know lots of decent, working class , definitely 'unposh' people who enjoy their rugby and wanted England to win. Shame that their integrity is compromised by the broad stereotype of the England fan as Barbour - wearing Toryboy but it's an attachment that seems difficult to shake.

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  • Logan Mountstuart
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    Don't get me wrong. All my family are Union fanatics, be it Gloucester, Bath or Bristol. They're all lovely people, and they're all gutted. I played rugby pretty seriously at school, because where I lived you just did.

    But let's face it. Despite this being about the most normal and likeable England team I can remember, they are still the absolute litmus test in sport for Tory Cunt morale.

    So fuck your Boris Bounce.

    My hatred admittedly stems from living in France when the Carling/ Moore arrogant and efficient thing was in its rampant pomp, and from the bloody chariot song.

    But nearly everything I've heard over the past week has been about 10 point minimum winning margins and the start of a rugby dynasty.

    As someone said above: England doesn't deserve good things at the moment.

    I suppose I'm a bitter, negative old bastard. I'd have much rather seen Wales or Ireland win it than England.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    Is the playing standard of international rugby league higher than union?
    As Tony notes, it is a difficult question. For all their similarities, league and union are manifestly different sports, with no one playing both at international level at the same time, and only a relative handful of players having switched codes at that level. So the situation is rather different than that between union and sevens, or among the different forms of cricket, where the degree of overlap is higher.

    There are fewer teams capable of winning a league World Cup than there are in union, but the difference isn't as high as between union and football. Nor is there any evidence that international league is anything other than the highest level of the sport in terms of quality (as there can be in basketball or ice hockey, depending on the participation of players in North American leagues).

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  • Felicity, I guess so
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    Did some broadcaster have a camera on Johnson, ready to film his ‘celebrations ‘. Fucking hope so.

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  • Tony C
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    Is the playing standard of international rugby league higher than union?
    Definitely one of those 'depends on who you ask' questions!

    It's a bit of an 'apples and oranges' notion, too, but at the top level the standard is pretty similar I would have thought.

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  • Paul S
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    I watched the game down my rugby club with about 200 other like minded people. The atmosphere was electric and although I wasn't drinking plenty were and it was clear it was going to be something special. Or at least it would have been if England had turned up and actually played. I cannot remember the last time I was so disappointed with an England performance (in any sport). South Africa dominated the forwards, superb tackling in the backs and had great ball handling skills. It was as if England's cup final was last week against the All Blacks and this was just an exhibition match. The only positive is that we didn't lose to Wales in the final.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    South Africa are the first side who lost a pool match to win the RWC. Very impressive.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Is the playing standard of international rugby league higher than union?

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  • Tony C
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    On a quick code - crossing point just watching the NZ - GB Lions test and the Kiwis have just produced a haka that would have All Blacks shaken.

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  • Tony C
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    As has been said across social media in the last couple of hours it's no bad thing that England lost, even from the perspective of England followers like myself. The idea of bandwagon jumping Conservative triumphalism would have been harder to swallow than this defeat.

    Britain doesn't deserve nice things.

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  • Duncan Gardner
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    Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
    Anyway, well done SA. I'm surprisingly happy for them (considering how obnoxious some of my SA friends are when they're watching rugby)
    "There are cunts, and there are cunts...and then there's Boris Cunting Johnson"

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  • San Bernardhinault
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    Am I right in thinking that a team which beat NZ before the final has only once ever won another game in a WC - Australia in '91?

    Anyway, well done SA. I'm surprisingly happy for them (considering how obnoxious some of my SA friends are when they're watching rugby).

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  • tee rex
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    I don't know if we're all seeing the same TV pictures, but that shot of the trophy being engraved before full time was a kicker. "South Africa" was already on, must have started before the last try.

    "World Rugby protocols broken", exclusive report.

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  • tee rex
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    England blew it. South Africa were superb, but predictably good, not shocking England with some unforeseen game plan. And I know the media are not the team (if that was the case the ABs would be unbearable) but the story never really changes, does it - England sports team reaches a final, gets awarded cup before game, repeat on loop. Admittedly 90% of those "reckons" came from people who only woke up for the semi final, but still. Alan Pardew went on about it on football commentary duty last week, that was enough to have me cheering the Boks.

    Congrats South Africa, and Japan.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    どうもありがとう、日本. A wonderful World Cup.

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  • Sporting
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    Yet only beat Wales by 3. What could have been...

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    England couldn't peak twice, just as NZ couldn't reproduce their QF form in the SF, whereas South Africa were consistently massive in scrums, mauls and defence in all three KO games, and tactically 100% throughout. The best all-round team and coach won the tournament, I would say.
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 02-11-2019, 11:25.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    That was the most "You've got to earn the right to go wide" performance I've ever seen. An absolute masterclass in that approach.

    What is the highest civic honour South Africa can bestow? Erasmus is due it.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Arturo View Post
    Not the first time in the RWC that a semi-final display by a side has surpassed their display in a final.
    Gatland knows.

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