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    A Belated Phoenix Coyotes Apocalypse Thread

    To recap:

    In 1996, shitbag NHL commissioner Gary Bettman permits my Winnipeg Jets to be taken out of the country and placed in suburban Arizona. Part of his "sunbelt strategy" of expanding the NHL's media reach in the US, aided and abetted by the abysmally low dollar which made it impossible to pay rising salaries (all of which were denominated in USD).

    12 years later, the Phoenix Coyotes are broker than they ever were in Winnipeg. The league in fact secretly had to give the owners a loan to help them meet payroll over the year. The owner - a local dude (and part owner of the Diamondbacks) by the name of Moyes who stepped in when the previous owner began to bleed too much red ink - started looking to sell.

    There was a buyer. Name of Balsillie. Co-owner of RIM, maker of the Blackberry and since Nortel's destruction, the only tech hero we've got left in the NPS. Loves hockey. Tried but failed to buy both the Penguins and the Thrashers in the last four years with the intention of bringing them to southwestern Ontario. But Bettman, either because he hates Canada or because the Maple Leafs want to keep their local monopoly and have his balls in a vice, has vetoed both moves - in one case actively cajoling a local consortium into existence to provide an alternative to a Balsillie bid.

    Same deal in Phoenix. Balsillie offers a massive amount of money with the intention of havng the team land in Hamilton. But Bettman gets Jerry Reinsdorf to front a transparently ridiculous bid worth only about half of what Balsillie's offering, only he says he wants to keep the team in Phoenix. What he doesn't say publicly is that this is conditional on getting massive subsidies from the city of Glendale to keep the team there. Glendale don't like this offer, but they like Balsillie less since if he wins it means losing a team they just spent a couple of hundred million on to build an arena.

    Moyes doesn't want to sell to Reinsdorf. he wants to sell to Balsillie, who is offering better money. Tough shit, says Bettman. We as a league have an absolute right to decide who gets a franchise and who doesn't, and then calls a meeting of the owners to declare Balsillie unfit to be an owner. Fuck that, says Moyes - you have no right to force me to sell an asset at below market value. Off to bankruptcy court we go.

    At this point, Moyes' group "accidentally" releases confidential information from the discovery process - to whit, the fine details of the Reinsdorf offer and his demands on teh city. reinsdorf pulls out of the bidding. Now the NHL is fucked - there was a third bidder with some loopy ideas about having the team play a few games a year in Saskatoon, but nobody took them seriously. So the league puts in an offer to buy the team, totally undercutting the rationale that teams are econmically viable in the sunbelt. It also puts them in a conflict of interest on the whole naming of Balsillie as an unfit buyer thing. This was an act of desperation on Bettman's part, no question.

    So we're waiting. The bankrupcy court judge has, in the parlance, ragged the puck for weeks, not making a decision. Team morale is destroyed. Gretzky, who is owed $8 million by the club and is thus a major creditor, just quit as coach/GM.

    If I've missed anything, some details can be filled in by reading this wikipedia page.

    The Globe and Mail has been absolutely superb on this story for months. I wish they had a microsite devoted to it because Brunt, Shoalts and Duhatschek have done stellar work and it's not getting enough recognition. Today's story on Gretzky's role in bringing the team to its knees is a case in point.

    So where next on this? A few key questions:

    1) Is the NHL doing all this just to satisfy the Leafs? Balsillie says yes, and even tried getting MLSE management onto the stand (the judge nixed it). The league's position - which the Leafs dispute - is that there is no territorial exclusivity guaranteed in the league constitution. Should this position be reversed, Canada's competition bureau has basically said it may resort to anti-trust legislation to beat up the league.

    2) Whose rights are more important - those of Moyes and his creditors to their money, or those of the league to the right to choose who their franchisees are?

    3) Owners have been willing to forgive Bettman a lot because he is perceived to have won the lockout on their behalf a couple of years ago. They voted against Balsillie partly on that basis (though partly also because Balsillie was being gratuitously offensive to some of them); but now he's starting to spend a lot of their money. How long do they tolerate this man's clearly failed southern strategy?

    4) After the lockout, players agreed to revenue sharing. A team in Hamilton would earn more than one in Phoenix, so this deal is costing he players money, too. How long will they take it?

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    It's weird how an ice based game never really took off in Arizona, isn't it?

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      Excellent summary. Is your brother one of the guys writing about this? I agree, I'd like to see a microsite where all of this is put together.

      I really want Basille (or somebody in the north US or Canada) to win and for Bettman and the forces of idiocy/southern hockey to lose.

      The part of all this that concerns me is that the league owners supposedly voted unanimously to keep Basille out.

      Why would they turn down a guy who is so rich and a new market that is so ripe for exploitation (Southern Ontario)?

      a) Loyalty to Bettman for the reasons you state? Perhaps, but surely some of the owners must see that continuing to press hockey in the desert is folly.

      b) Colusion with the Leafs? Perhaps, but who are the Leafs' ownership, exactly? Aren't they owned by the Ontario Teacher's Union or some such? Anyway, their ownership seems to be in flux (or am I wrong about that?) I can imagine the other owners caring about the fate of one of their own, but the Leafs owner isn't "one of their own," I don't think. Besides, if I'm the Canadiens or Sens or Oilers, etc, I'd think my attitude would be "fuck the Leafs."

      c) Distaste for Basille? This makes sense, I guess, given that he was a bit of a lying prick about the Penguins. He said he planned to keep them in Pittsburgh if they got a new arena as part of that bid to build a new casino in Pittsburgh. When the state chose a different bid, he showed his true intentions were to move the club to Hamilton/Kitchener/Waterloo. That pissed off a lot of people in Pennsylvania and I imagine it soured a lot of owners. (BTW, the Penguins were later saved by some last minute adroit political maneuvering to get a new arena built).

      d) The simple principle of the matter, that the owners want to preserve the exclusive right to decide who joins their club? Perhaps. But I can't imagine all of the owners would care about such things. I'd think they'd care more about wanting to avoid letting the Coyotes become hockey's Montreal Expos/zombie club and a drain on the whole league.

      As for Gretzky. I feel a bit bad that his first coaching tenure ended like this. He wasn't wildly successful, but then he didn't have a lot of talent to work with and all indications were that he was getting better at it. He wasn't really prepared for a head coaching job and only got the job because the team thought it would help sell tickets and, as part owner of the team, he was willing to help them do that. Good effort, but not enough.

      On the other hand, it appears The Great One tended to hire only his old friends and family - his brother, his agent, etc. As I understand it, Michael Jordan has done something similar in his less-than-stellar career as an NBA exec with the Wizards and Bobcats.

      It's not a recipe for success, but I can completely understand why these guys operate that way. During their playing careers, they were so huge and so wealthy (Gretzky not as much as Jordan, of course, but relative to other hockey stars, Gretzky was a massive money maker) that all sorts of people - from sponsors, to groupies to complete lowlifes like that guy who wrote a book about Jordan's gambling - were always trying to get a piece of them. I imagine living like that would cause one to be distrustful of just about everyone outside a very small circle of friends and kin.

      That's a good way to live as a megasuperstar, but it's not a great way to run a team franchise and yet I don't know if these guys can adapt to any other way of operation.

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        Fascinating. What I've never really understood is how sports team owners have been able to get local authorities to stump up hundreds of millions for newimproved arenas. US & Canadian sports must generate more cash than any other countries, yet are able to hold a gun to the city's head by threatening to move the team unless they're subsidised by the taxpayer. I suppose this is a classic example of every local authority's self-interest leading to bad overall results.

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          Writing sports is career death if you have any pretensions to doing serious news. I think they actually offered him editorship of the sports section and he turned it down for that reason. My son, thinking of the potential access at Raptors games, was appalled.

          I think it's a mix of all four reasons. I don't think it' collusion with the Leafs, precisely so much as fear - fear of a major lawsuit. It's pretty clear the Leafs are under the impression that the league constitution gives them an 80K exclusion zone (even though, if true, it would bring the competition bureau down on the league like a ton of bricks). But of course, this is a secret document so who can tell? Of course southern Ontario could support a second team. Personally, I would *love* the opportunity to support a team that wasn't the Leafs. In a dream land, the new owners learn from the success of TFC and get into the idea of tifos and singing, like a Swiss league match.

          Don't underestimate the importance of d. All the other major leagues (MLB, NFL, etc) have filed briefs in this case on precisely this point.

          Correction to something I said earlier - it was the Nashville Predators, not the Atlanta Thrashers, that Balsillie tried to buy. (I can't keep any of the post-92 expansion clubs straight) Bettman backed a dude by the name of Del Baggio instead. It later transpired that Del Baggio used fraud to obtain the loans he needed to acquire the team. According to Bettman it is better that a team belong to criminals and stay in the US rather than it be re-located to Canada.

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            "Serious news" is overrated in my opinion, but I wouldn't want to steer my career into the sportswriting cul-de-sac. I don't think sportswriting would be much fun these days as it was in the mythical past - not starting out now, anyway. There are a small handful of guys who have developed a lot of sources and have enough access to players, coaches, scouts, etc that they can provide interesting inside information and technical expertise that enhances the reader's understanding and enjoyment of the games - Buster Olney, Peter Gammons, a few others like that. Most of them seem to be at ESPN.

            But most of the sports columns I see these days are bullshit - rehashed conventional wisdom and observations that the fans could make for themselves with little or no actual reporting of any kind. Everyone seems to be just trying to get on TV.

            The dwindling ranks of beat writers don't seem to get much of anything interesting from the players or coaches so I don't know why they bother. Part of that is their own fault - I'm always appalled by the stupid questions I hear asked in postgame press conferences - but part of that is players, coaches, etc, have decided they'd rather not deal with the media anymore and instead prefer to speak "directly" to the fans through their own websites or twitter or whatever. I don't blame them.

            This story goes well beyond sports and ought to be treated as serious news in Canada, but if I were one of the G&M's sportswriters, I wouldn't want people from other departments horning in on this story since these days sportswriters don't get many chances to write about something as interesting and as important as this.

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              And to the G&M's credit, they have let their sportswriters cover all the financial and legal aspects of the case and they've done brilliantly. And as often as not, it's been page 1 news up here, not just back-of-the-paper material.

              A better summary of the issues at stake in the lawsuit.

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                Don't underestimate the importance of d. All the other major leagues (MLB, NFL, etc) have filed briefs in this case on precisely this point.
                It seems to me that this ought to be viewed as overreaching the leagues' already substantial anti-trust exemption.

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                  You think? McDonald's or Subway or companies like that aren't obigated to give a franchise to whoever wants one. They can say no for more or less any reason they choose. I've heard some commentators say that in fact this is probably the strongest single argument the NHL has going for it.

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                    Wayne's Teflon is wearing pretty thin

                    Through his long-time lawyer, Ron Fujikawa, Mr. Gretzky wound up with a salary of $8-million (U.S.), far more than any other NHL head coach. That came after years of talks in which hockey’s most famous personality demanded such perks as a veto over any potential buyer, a right of first refusal on any offers, and a requirement that the Coyotes continue to pay his salary if he died.

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                      I don't fault Gretzky for milking it for all he could. It's the Coyote's ownership's fault for believing that and giving him that much money, assuming that his simple presence in the building would save the club. It's also Gretzky's fault for believing the same, but Gretzky is, at the end of the day, a working class kid from Brantford who never went to college. I wouldn't expect him to really understand the economics of it. The guys deciding to spend a zillion dollars to build an ice rink in the godforsaken desert ought to know better.

                      You think? McDonald's or Subway or companies like that aren't obigated to give a franchise to whoever wants one. They can say no for more or less any reason they choose. I've heard some commentators say that in fact this is probably the strongest single argument the NHL has going for it.
                      I agree they can say no, but I was thinking more about the other side of it. Maybe they don't have to let Basille in, but they shouldn't be able to force the current owner to sell it to their chosen buyer for a low bid. Especially since their reasons for wanting Reinsdorf or whomever instead of Basille have nothing to do with business sense and everything to do with personalities and power and letting the Leafs have their monopoly, and that has everything to do with maintaining a trust.

                      But beyond that, could McDonald's refuse to sell a franchise to a guy who was willing to pay more than it was worth simply because they didn't like the look of him? Seems descriminatory.

                      It's also not quite the same because McDonald's etc, have fiduciary responsibilities to their shareholders so they're more apt to do whatever will make the most money in the next few quarters. The NHL and at least most of its teams, don't have shareholders.

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                        It's a bad week for so-called coaching 'messiahs', what with Gretzky and Keegan both pursuing compensation from their clubs.

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                          but Gretzky is, at the end of the day, a working class kid from Brantford who never went to college. I wouldn't expect him to really understand the economics of it.

                          Oh come on. How long can that narrative continue to play. He's a middle-aged guy who's been around serious money since his mid-teens. He's also kept company with some of the shiftiest financial operators around — Nelson Skalbania, Peter Pocklington, Bruce McNall — do you really think he was a total babe in the woods in his dealings with them?

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                            Oh come on. How long can that narrative continue to play. He's a middle-aged guy who's been around serious money since his mid-teens. He's also kept company with some of the shiftiest financial operators around — Nelson Skalbania, Peter Pocklington, Bruce McNall — do you really think he was a total babe in the woods in his dealings with them?
                            He might be familiar with shifty financial operations but he might not be familiar with the economics of development in the sunbelt. Given how many developers are currently losing their shirts on speculation in real estate developments in that region, it's not a surprise.

                            Plus, as I suggested, his adult life has been spent with all of those people you mention blowing sunshine up his ass because they wanted something from him. Now he's on the ownership side with no experience of the hard realities of it. So it's not the same as getting an education in economics.

                            And, of course, lots of great players in all sports have tried and failed to succeed at coaching. Just because you're a great player doesn't mean you know how to evaluate talent in others or know how to communicate your wealth of knowledge to them.

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                              Gretzky's management record still consists basically of one thing: winning gold at Salt Lake. If I were Joe Sakic, I would want a cut of Gretzky's salary.

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                                I don't think the Coyotes hired him on the strength of that gold medal.

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                                  Reed of the Valley People wrote:

                                  He might be familiar with shifty financial operations but he might not be familiar with the economics of development in the sunbelt. Given how many developers are currently losing their shirts on speculation in real estate developments in that region, it's not a surprise.

                                  Plus, as I suggested, his adult life has been spent with all of those people you mention blowing sunshine up his ass because they wanted something from him. Now he's on the ownership side with no experience of the hard realities of it. So it's not the same as getting an education in economics.
                                  His inadequacies as a coach are a separate issue and, in my view, obscuring the picture. He wasn't paid $8.5 million just — or even mostly — for coaching, it was principally for name recognition and his role as a managing partner. It's his failure in the latter capacity that has begun to turn opinion against him. He left Moyes out to dry big-time when he could, and should, have been his ally. His silence throughout the summer and now his last ditch attempt to extract blood from the 'Yotes twitching corpse make him look exactly like the scumbags he's been involved with most of his career.

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                                    I didn't know until this week that he was getting paid $8.5 million. That's a lot for what are essentially appearance fees. A coach not named Wayne Gretzky with no head coaching experience on any level isn't going to get paid anything like 1% of that to coach anywhere, let alone the NHL.

                                    He's never seemed like the sort of guy who really understands how to to take control of his own career, image, etc. Even when he was at the peak of his star power, when he led the Kings to the finals, it seemed like he needed a better publicist and it's just gone down hill from there. Somebody should be telling him right now that it's bad PR to leave it like this with the Coyotes. So either he's surrounded himself with yes-men or he has become a yes-man for his agent(s) because he believes his agent is really his best friend.

                                    I'm not sure which is worse, but either way, it suggests a staggering naivete about how the real world operates. A bit like Beckham in that regard. Jordan too, but with Beckham and Gretzky you get the idea that they really don't understand why some things they do rub people the wrong way. Like they just think "I'm a nice guy, ergo people should like me." Jordan doesn't seem to fancy himself as a man of the people. He is simply unwilling to believe he might not be good at everything. Life as a series of "I'm Keith Hernandez" moments.

                                    His coaching problems are related to his problems as an executive, because his lack of success on the ice is largely connected to the lack of talent at his disposal and I can only assume that his decision to appoint his brother head of scouting and his agent has GM (or something like that) have a lot to do with that. You can't run a successful operation of any kind by just hiring people you already know and trust. That simply limits the talent pool too much.

                                    He makes it sound like Coyotes ownership, such as it is, are the ones who have left him twisting in the wind. It resembles the Jordan-Wizards situation in a lot of ways, but with a slightly different ending. Clash of egos. Everyone goes away mad and nobody comes out of it looking good in the paper.

                                    It should be a cautionary tale to any athlete thinking of going into coaching or uppper management.

                                    The only significant success story that comes to mind is Mario Lemieux. I don't know how involved in the day to day he's been with the Penguins. As far as I can tell, his main role has been sort of like that of a college president. Not running the day to day, but being the face of the organization and meeting and greeting politicians and buisness folk, but instead of trying to raise money for a new wing of the library or engineering building, he was trying to get a new rink built while also housing Sidney Crosby with his family.

                                    On a related note, co-owner of the Tri-City Americans (WHL) Olie Kolzig has retired. It's unfortunate that he didn't retire as a Capital. He's not the greatest Capital player ever, but he's certainly the best ambassador the team has ever had. They should retire his jersey immediately and honor him with a bobblehead night, instead of waiting close to a decade like they did with Mike Gartner.

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                                      He's never seemed like the sort of guy who really understands how to to take control of his own career, image, etc.

                                      As long as he was in Canada he never needed to. He was a saint, still is to many people — I mean they even make movies here about his Dad for chrissake! But in the US he's just another cleb-jock, not even a particularly well known one either. He can't walk on water down there and the Coyotes were never going to be successful just because of his presence, I don't think he ever understood that.

                                      So either he's surrounded himself with yes-men or he has become a yes-man for his agent(s) because he believes his agent is really his best friend. I'm not sure which is worse, but either way, it suggests a staggering naivete about how the real world operates.

                                      Maybe, but I do think that's generous reading of things. There's a good deal of entitlement in evidence. It's also clear Wayne looks after Wayne, and when Wayne lies down with dogs — as he frequently has — he's liable to have picked up more than a few fleas.

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                                        Maybe, but I do think that's generous reading of things. There's a good deal of entitlement in evidence. It's also clear Wayne looks after Wayne, and when Wayne lies down with dogs — as he frequently has — he's liable to have picked up more than a few fleas.
                                        I don't think that contradicts what I suggested. In my experience, people don't act entitled unless that attitude is supported by people around them telling them that they are, in fact, entitled.

                                        But Gretzky (and Beckham) seem to want the public to like him, in which case he needs a publicist to tell him that certain types of behavior are not going to play well in Peoria or, in this case, Medicine Hat.

                                        Lots of celebrities do whatever they want and feel entitled to whatever they get, but the savvy ones know how to not come off like a selfish ass in the press. He is not one of the savvy ones.

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                                          I don't think that contradicts what I suggested. In my experience, people don't act entitled unless that attitude is supported by people around them telling them that they are, in fact, entitled.

                                          That is true of course. My question is at what point do you hold someone responsible for who they are listening to and for the consequent choices they make? Aside from the Holy Family (his parents) the people surrounding Gretzky, including his wife,(remember the Tocchet/gambling affair?) suggest someone who has very little ability to make good character judgements. This either means, as you suggest, he's amazingly naive, or he's as venal as they are. To this point he's had a free pass on the question — especially in Canada — but there are signs this is ending, which I think, is as it should be.

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                                            #22
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                                            As with Michael Jackson, naïveté and bad behavior and bad character judgements go together in a guy who has been a celebrity since he was a kid. If one never faces the proper consequences for a bad decision or has anyone tell them no, they're never going to learn. We are all responsible for ourselves, but surely others have missed chances to tell him what's what.

                                            Some of his demands in his contract negotiations with the Coyotes go beyond mere douchebaggery into the downright bizarre. Asking to get paid when you're dead? Indeed, has nobody explained life insurance to him? Whethrt they are actually suggesting these absurdities or just enabling them in their client, his agents are not doing him any favors.

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                                              #23
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                                              Interesting thread. I was going to give the Tappara-Panthers game a miss tonight, but now i want to go along and see the sunbelt franchising model in action. The Panthers are in Tampere basically to show what a big deal hockey is and how desperately the city needs a new arena, but ticket sales are heading for about 6,500 right now, 1,500 under capacity.

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                                                The Florida Panthers?!?

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                                                  The Florida Panthers?!?

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