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Yeah, it's a vile song (I'm very sure we have discussed it here before). The problem isn't so much the lyrics. Those are problematic but, if one wants to make stater the case for the defence, they could be said to be documenting fact. The really vile thing is the celebratory sound of the music, and Jagger's vocals as well. "Rape, rape, rape, Whoooo!" Overrated fucks.
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On the evidence of the clip the BBC showed in their Glastonbury programme on Saturday, Jagger could well be embarrassed by the song because he seemed to just run around the stage shouting SUGAR YEAH, but then again maybe not as there's less to be embrassed about in JJF and he seemed to take a similar approach to that song too.
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Jim Dickinson, who played piano on some Stones' songs, on the "whip the women" lyrics;
Actually, my 'true claim to fame' with The Rolling Stones comes with a line in "Brown Sugar." It was the first night, when he was doin' the vocals, he was singing the line "...just about midnight" - the second night, when he was overdubbing it, he was leaving it out and I told him to put it back in [laughing] and I think that's my true 'claim to fame'!
There's this as well:
Dickinson was especially taken by Mick’s ability to absorb Southern colloquialisms that he heard from people around the studio and introduce them into his lyrics. Jim says that Mick sings “Skydog slaver” in the first verse (but then possibly changed it during the vocal overdubs); Skydog was the Swampers name for 22 year old Duane Allman who worked at Muscle Shoals Sound with Boz Scaggs and Lulu during the summer before the Stones arrived.
In his ghost-written autobiography Keith Richards admits that "many of the songs we wrote...had what you might call anti-girl lyrics...the songs came from a lot of frustration...You go on the road for a month, you come back, and she's with somebody else."
He then goes on to give some pretty objectionable opinions about the difference between making out with "English chicks" and "black chicks", the latter being "more like guys than English girls were. You didn't mind them being around after the event."
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By the Way, add me to the list of people who had no fucking idea what the lyrics of Brown sugar were. If you have them written down in front of you it's as clear as day when you're listening. But if you don't already know the lyrics it sounds like noise.
they really are horrible aren't they?
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostBy the Way, add me to the list of people who had no fucking idea what the lyrics of Brown sugar were. If you have them written down in front of you it's as clear as day when you're listening. But if you don't already know the lyrics it sounds like noise.
they really are horrible aren't they?
I was stunned when I Googled them. Apart from the chorus, about the only thing that had stuck from my drunken singalongs was the "just around midnight" bit, which I thought was probably something to do with when he gets jiggly with Brown Sugar. And then I discovered the context.
I suggested to a friend that he took a look at the lyrics to Brown Sugar and Under My Thumb. He was shocked too, but also said thanks a lot for ruining my two favourite Stones songs for me!
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Well, I'm sure many other examples from that era could be cited - but BS was a pretty high-profile hit.
Jagger himself said: "God knows what I'm on about on that song. It's such a mishmash. All the nasty subjects in one go...I never would write that song now." (Yeah, right-o, Mick - how are those royalties looking?)
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