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    #51
    First Division: 4 qualifiers for CL
    Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United

    First Division: 3 to go down
    Brentford, Southampton, Wolverhampton Wanderers

    Second Division: 3 to go up
    Middlesbrough, QPR, WBA

    Second Division: 3 to go down
    Derby County, Hull City, Millwall

    Third Division: 3 to go up
    Charlton Athletic, Oxford United, Portsmouth

    Third Division: 4 to go down
    Cambridge United, Crewe Alexandra, Fleetwood Town, Morecambe

    Fourth Division: 4 to go up
    Bradford City, Port Vale, Salford City, Tranmere Rovers

    Fourth Division: 2 to go down
    Scunthorpe United, Swindon Town

    Gola League: 2 to go up
    Chesterfield, Wrexham

    Gola League: 3 to go down
    Dover Athletic, Kings Lynn Town, Weymouth

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      #52
      Premier League: 4 qualifiers for CL
      Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arse

      Premier League: 3 to go down
      Bottomham, Soton, Norwich

      Division 2: 3 to go up
      Fulham, Bournemouth, Olbyun

      Division 2: 3 to go down
      Kew Pier, Coventry, Huddersfield

      Division 3: 3 to go up
      Portsmouth, Sunderland, Rotherham

      Division 3: 4 to go down
      Wimbledon, Morecambe, Cambridge, Plymouth

      Division 4: 4 to go up
      Salford, Forest Green, Exeter, Bradford

      Division 4: 2 to go down
      Scunthorpe, Swindon

      National League: 2 to go up
      Notts County, Wrexham

      National League: 3 to go down
      Dover, Barnet, Wealdstone

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        #53
        22 experts! Great!

        Here is an overview of the considered predictions:

        PL/CL QUALIFIERS

        Man City 22
        Liverpool 21
        Man Utd 20
        Chelsea 20
        Leicester City 3
        Arsenal 2


        PL RELEGATED

        Watford 12
        Brentford 11
        Norwich 10
        Newcastle 6
        Burnley 6
        Crystal Palace 6
        Brighton 5
        Southampton 5
        Wolves 3
        Leeds 1
        Spurs 1

        NOT PICKED

        Aston Villa, Everton, West Ham

        DIVISION 2 PROMOTED

        WBA 17
        QPR 11
        Fulham 9
        Sheffield United 6
        Swansea 6
        Bournemouth 6
        Middlesbrough 4
        Cardiff City 3
        Reading 2
        Stoke City 1
        Blackpool 1

        DIVISION 2 RELEGATED

        Derby 16
        Blackpool 12
        Coventry 7
        Huddersfield 6
        Hull City 5
        Peterborough 4
        Luton Town 3
        Sheffield United 2
        Peterborough 2
        Millwall 2
        Preston 1
        Swansea 1
        Reading 1
        Bristol City 1
        Bournemouth 1
        Barnsley 1
        QPR 1

        BOTH UP AND DOWN

        Blackpool, Bournemouth, QPR, Reading, Sheffield United, Swansea


        NOT PICKED

        Birmingham City, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest



        DIVISION 3 PROMOTED

        Portsmouth 13
        Sunderland 12
        Charlton 10
        Rotherham 8
        Ipswich 7
        Sheffield Wednesday 6
        Wycombe 4
        Oxford 3
        Lincoln 2
        Gillingham 1


        DIVISION 3 RELEGATED

        Morecambe 17
        Cambridge 13
        Crewe 10
        Plymouth 8
        Milton Keynes 7
        Cheltenham 6
        Wimbledon 4
        Shrewsbury 4
        Wigan 4
        Burton 4
        Fleetwood 4
        Accrington 3
        Doncaster 1
        Rotherham 1
        Lincoln 1
        Bolton 1

        BOTH UP AND DOWN

        Lincoln, Rotherham

        DIVISION 4 PROMOTED

        Exeter 14
        Salford 11
        Bradford City 11
        Forest Green 9
        Carlisle 6
        Newport 6
        Rochdale 4
        Orient 4
        Tranmere 4
        Bristol Rovers 3
        Walsall 3
        Northampton 3
        Swindon 2
        Port Vale 2
        Stevenage 1
        Sutton 1
        Scunthorpe 1
        Mansfield 1
        Crawley 1
        Oldham 1


        DIVISION 4 RELEGATED

        Swindon 9
        Scunthorpe 8
        Barrow 7
        Sutton 5
        Stevenage 4
        Harrogate 3
        Bristol Rovers 2
        Rochdale 1
        Mansfield 1
        Crawley 1
        Poole 1
        Oldham 1
        Salford 1
        Hartlepool 1


        BOTH UP AND DOWN

        Bristol Rovers, Crawley, Mansfield, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Scunthorpe, Stevenage, Sutton, Swindon





        CONFERENCE PROMOTED

        Wrexham 13
        Stockport 9
        Notts County 8
        Torquay 6
        Chesterfield 3
        Grimsby 1
        Southend 1
        Halifax 1
        Dagenham 1
        Aldershot 1


        CONFERENCE RELEGATED

        Dover 15
        Kings Lynn 14
        Weymouth 9
        Wealdstone 7
        Barnet 5
        Boreham 4
        Solihull 3
        Maidenhead 3
        Wrexham 1
        Dagenham 1
        Aldershot 1
        Chesterfield 1
        Eastleigh 1
        Woking 1

        BOTH UP AND DOWN

        Aldershot, Chesterfield, Dagenham, Wrexham

        NOT PICKED

        Altrincham, Bromley, Yeovil
        Last edited by Sporting; 04-09-2021, 17:30.

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          #54
          Outstanding summary Sporting, and thanks again.

          To be pedantic for a moment, Wrexham can be added to the “both up and down” list.

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            #55
            Thanks and duly edited.

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              #56
              Thanks Sporting. Great work. I made a late alteration to my selection just before kick-off last night. Did you pick it up?

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                #57
                Thanks for sorting Sporting, tremendous stuff.

                However, further pedantry demands that I point out that QPR should also be added to the up/down lists.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Capybara View Post
                  Thanks Sporting. Great work. I made a late alteration to my selection just before kick-off last night. Did you pick it up?
                  No. What was it?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by lambers View Post
                    Thanks for sorting Sporting, tremendous stuff.

                    However, further pedantry demands that I point out that QPR should also be added to the up/down lists.
                    Ta!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sporting View Post

                      No. What was it?
                      I put Bournemouth on for promotion instead of Swansea. Sorry for messing you around.

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                        #61
                        Guy had Poolie going down I.e. Hartlepool and Dunc had Bottenham as relegation fodder I.e. Tottenham so both of them do have picks Sporting

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                          #62
                          Ah i understood Duncan had picked West Ham

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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                            Ah i understood Duncan had picked West Ham
                            Sorry about that. Just to clarify

                            Bottomham = Hotspur
                            Arse = Woolwich
                            Barse = Familia Messi Vanity Project
                            Merengue? = No, all the above are wholly valid descriptions

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                              #64
                              All hopefully corrected.

                              Are Derby really toast or is their relegation wishful thinking?

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                                #65
                                I fear they may be toast by most accounts.

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                                  #66
                                  Their correspondent in the WSC season preview: 'Survival will be a miracle'

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                                    #67
                                    There are only so many 'Get Out of Jail Free Cards' even the EFL can give their favoured clubs.

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                                      #68
                                      This is a brief update on our collective performance so far, so no names apart from mine are mentioned. Comments highly welcpmed.

                                      PL/CL QUALIFIERS

                                      Man City 22
                                      Liverpool 21
                                      Man Utd 20
                                      Chelsea 20
                                      Leicester City 3
                                      Arsenal 2

                                      Three of these are pretty much nailed on, nobody considered West Ham or Spurs, and early indications are that those predicting Leicester may be disappointed.

                                      PL RELEGATED

                                      Watford 12
                                      Brentford 11
                                      Norwich 10
                                      Newcastle 6
                                      Burnley 6
                                      Crystal Palace 6
                                      Brighton 5
                                      Southampton 5
                                      Wolves 3
                                      Leeds 1
                                      West Ham 1

                                      Brentford doing much better than many feared/expected/hoped (but who seriously wants Brentford to nosedive?). Norwich confirming suspicions, and Newcastle confirming wishes. Leeds a bold and promising longshot, and West Ham the maverick and thus far erroneous prediction.

                                      NOT PICKED

                                      Aston Villa, Everton, Spurs

                                      Probably wise omissions on our behalfs.


                                      DIVISION 2 PROMOTED

                                      WBA 17
                                      QPR 11
                                      Fulham 9
                                      Sheffield United 6
                                      Swansea 6
                                      Bournemouth 6
                                      Middlesbrough 4
                                      Cardiff City 3
                                      Reading 2
                                      Stoke City 1
                                      Blackpool 1

                                      Any interim analysis is bound to be found wanting in, more than likely, just a few games in this ridiculously competitive league. But the top three in our list are doing ok, and others bubbling just under, or in, the play-off slots. Cardiff and Reading were bold guesses, one would have to say.

                                      DIVISION 2 RELEGATED

                                      Derby 16
                                      Blackpool 12
                                      Coventry 7
                                      Huddersfield 6
                                      Hull City 5
                                      Peterborough 4
                                      Luton Town 3
                                      Sheffield United 2
                                      Peterborough 2
                                      Millwall 2
                                      Preston 1
                                      Swansea 1
                                      Reading 1
                                      Bristol City 1
                                      Bournemouth 1
                                      Barnsley 1
                                      QPR 1

                                      Muggins here didn’t choose Derby. Blackpool are defying predictions, though Barnsley and Peterborough may be unpleasantly surprising many of us. Huddersfield are doing much better than expected. QPR to go down?! Almost as bad as my Derby cock-up…

                                      BOTH UP AND DOWN

                                      Blackpool, Bournemouth, Reading, Sheffield United, Swansea

                                      As I said, a league you wouldn’t bet your house on…

                                      NOT PICKED

                                      Birmingham City, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest

                                      Blackburn the obvious (at the moment) stand-outs here, though Forest may be seen in retrospect as an odd omission.








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                                        #69
                                        DIVISION 3 PROMOTED

                                        Portsmouth 13
                                        Sunderland 12
                                        Charlton 10
                                        Rotherham 8
                                        Ipswich 7
                                        Sheffield Wednesday 6
                                        Wycombe 4
                                        Oxford 3
                                        Lincoln 2
                                        Gillingham 1

                                        Portsmouth are letting a lot of people down; so are Ipswich and Charlton. Rotherham are flying, though! As for Gillingham, Lincoln…Sunderland seems a solid outside gamble, however. Milton Keynes likewise are nowhere near the lower reaches of the table.


                                        DIVISION 3 RELEGATED

                                        Morecambe 17
                                        Cambridge 13
                                        Crewe 10
                                        Plymouth 8
                                        Milton Keynes 7
                                        Cheltenham 6
                                        Wimbledon 4
                                        Shrewsbury 4
                                        Wigan 4
                                        Burton 4
                                        Fleetwood 4
                                        Accrington 3
                                        Doncaster 1
                                        Rotherham 1
                                        Lincoln 1
                                        Bolton 1

                                        Morecambe are doing their best to oblige our predictions, as are Crewe, but Cambridge are doing better than expected. Plymouth too are defying some pessimism.

                                        BOTH UP AND DOWN

                                        Lincoln, Rotherham

                                        Rotherham obviously doing better than Lincoln.

                                        DIVISION 4 PROMOTED

                                        Exeter 14
                                        Salford 11
                                        Bradford City 11
                                        Forest Green 9
                                        Carlisle 6
                                        Newport 6
                                        Rochdale 4
                                        Orient 4
                                        Tranmere 4
                                        Bristol Rovers 3
                                        Walsall 3
                                        Northampton 3
                                        Swindon 2
                                        Port Vale 2
                                        Stevenage 1
                                        Sutton 1
                                        Scunthorpe 1
                                        Mansfield 1
                                        Crawley 1
                                        Oldham 1

                                        Exeter are disappointing somewhat, though still in with chances, as are Salford and Bradford, but Forest Green are flying. The Carlisle predictions are looking optimistic. And Sutton were very much underrated.


                                        DIVISION 4 RELEGATED
                                        Swindon 9
                                        Scunthorpe 8
                                        Barrow 7
                                        Sutton 5
                                        Stevenage 4
                                        Harrogate 3
                                        Bristol Rovers 2
                                        Rochdale 1
                                        Mansfield 1
                                        Crawley 1
                                        Oldham 1
                                        Salford 1

                                        Scunthorpe living down to expectations, but Swindon surprising many of us.

                                        BOTH UP AND DOWN

                                        Bristol Rovers, Crawley, Mansfield, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Scunthorpe, Stevenage, Sutton, Swindon

                                        Make what you want of this!


                                        NOT PICKED

                                        Hartlepool

                                        Sitting in mid-table, looking like a sensible omission.


                                        CONFERENCE PROMOTED

                                        Wrexham 13
                                        Stockport 9
                                        Notts County 8
                                        Torquay 6
                                        Chesterfield 3
                                        Grimsby 1
                                        Southend 1
                                        Halifax 1
                                        Dagenham 1
                                        Aldershot 1

                                        Of the top choices, maybe Torquay are the most disappointing. Good longshot pick for Halifax.


                                        CONFERENCE RELEGATED

                                        Dover 15
                                        Kings Lynn 14
                                        Weymouth 9
                                        Wealdstone 7
                                        Barnet 5
                                        Boreham 4
                                        Solihull 3
                                        Maidenhead 3
                                        Wrexham 1
                                        Dagenham 1
                                        Aldershot 1
                                        Chesterfield 1
                                        Eastleigh 1
                                        Woking 1

                                        Boreham defying expectations: Dover, Kings Lynn and Weymouth predictably in the mire. Chesterfield simply wrong, as is Boreham. Solihull are doing better than some thought.


                                        BOTH UP AND DOWN

                                        Aldershot, Chesterfield, Dagenham

                                        Dagenham look to be going nowhere.

                                        NOT PICKED

                                        Altrincham, Bromley, Yeovil

                                        Bromley the stand-out so far erroneous omission here.




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                                          #70
                                          Successful picks so far with the number of correct guesses (from 22 competitors):


                                          Man City 22
                                          Liverpool 21
                                          Chelsea 20
                                          Spurs 0

                                          Burnley 6
                                          Norwich 10
                                          Watford 12

                                          Bournemouth 6
                                          Fulham 9
                                          Nottingham Forest 0

                                          Derby 16
                                          Peterborough 2
                                          Barnsley 1

                                          Wigan 0
                                          Rotherham 8
                                          Sunderland 12

                                          Gillingham 0
                                          Doncaster 1
                                          Wimbledon 4
                                          Crewe 10

                                          Exeter 14
                                          Forest Green 9
                                          Bristol Rovers 3
                                          Port Vale 2

                                          Oldham 1
                                          Scunthorpe 8

                                          Stockport 9
                                          Grimbsy 1

                                          King's Lynn 14
                                          Weymouth 9
                                          Dover 15
                                          Last edited by Sporting; 09-06-2022, 03:25.

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                                            #71
                                            So as can be seen from the preceding (edited) post we were way out on Spurs (not even Jah), Nottingham Forest, Wigan and Gillingham.

                                            Final scores (max. 31):

                                            Kevin S 15
                                            Sean of the Shed 15
                                            Sporting 14
                                            Duncan Gardner 13
                                            Capybara 12
                                            Nmfox 12
                                            3 Colours Red 12
                                            Discordant Resonance 12
                                            Longeared 11
                                            Lambers 11
                                            Sits 11
                                            Jah Womble 11
                                            pebblethefish 11
                                            Foot of Astaire's 11
                                            Greenlander 10
                                            jwdd27 10
                                            Amor de Cosmos 10
                                            Ad Hoc 9
                                            Baptiste 9
                                            Crystal Staples 9
                                            Merseybeast 8
                                            Guy Profumo 8




                                            Last season (max. 28):

                                            Foot of Astaire's 14
                                            Capybara 14
                                            Ad Hoc 14
                                            Nmfox 13
                                            Fatbear 12
                                            CY Boaby 12
                                            Sporting 12
                                            Guy Profumo 11
                                            Longeared 11
                                            Kevin S 11
                                            3 Colours Red 10
                                            pebblethefish 10
                                            Diable Rouge 10
                                            Jah Womble 9
                                            Sean of the Shed 8
                                            Amor de Cosmos 6


                                            I'll leave it for individuals to confess or boast about any particularly crap or accurate predictions. Myself, I didn't have Derby but I did have Barnsley to go down.

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                                              #72
                                              I think my season was set when I realised I hadn't picked Dover to go down despite their huge points deduction which they didn't manage to clear off until the end of the season. Elsewhere I had three clubs down for relegation who reached the play-offs so I was pretty pleased to finish in the top half. Thanks Sporting for the organisation.

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                                                #73
                                                Yeah, thanks for doing all this Sporting. Good to see, like last year, that half marks is about the best we can hope for!

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