I don't think Kaspar Schmeichel made a single save, did he?
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Before I forget again, I don't think anyone's said it yet but kudos to Patrick Thistle for our magnificent thread title. The highlight of a disappointing affair.
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The BBC interviewer was a bit heavy-handed interviewing Bale. No wonder he walked off.
I'd have tried a tack along the lines off: "Reaching the second round has been a good achievement. Looking ahead, a solid basis for the World Cup qualifications."
Gareth: "Yeah, no, yes, for sure, great group of players that can achieve great things for sure."
Me: "Is the playing for the World Cup an ambition for you?"
At which point Gareth walks off in disgust anyway, but more likely he says: "Yeah, no, er, yes, no, I think at the end of the day every player dreams of playing in the World Cup but as I say I'll take some time off and not think about football and then think about the future."
He'll hardly commit to future plans he possibly hasn't even made yet.
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Originally posted by ooh aah View Post
That's ok, I think the Wales players were pretty tired of the ref from the 48 minute mark.
Ideally (in my world), any kick/shove of a player with no pretence of attempting to play the football would be a red card, whoever does it at whatever stage of the game – might stop a lot of cynical fouls, not just petulant ones.
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Going on about the ref might be a distraction from reality, but that's all it is. Denmark dominated from the 10th minute on and 4-0 really isn't a harsh reflection. The 2nd goal wouldn't have happened if Williams hadn't basically passed straight to Dolberg right in front of goal.
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Yeah the second goal was a defensive fuck up. The third goal had Ben Davies slipping while trying to change direction. The fourth goal was excellent and should never have been flagged offside. I'm not going to complain about Wilson's red card because if it had been a Denmark player doing that I'd have said it should have been a red card.
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That was one of those games where I did want Denmark to win, but after a thriller, not a thumping. Bale must surely have been frustrated that as the one real world class star on the pitch Denmark worked out, affer 20 minutes, how to keep him out of the game.
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The second goal was a defensive fuck up. That doesn't alter the fact it should have been disallowed. A foul doesn't stop being a foul just because the team committing it has been playing better. I don't really have a problem with the referee missing a foul, that happens. What I have a problem with is the failure of the VAR system to be used properly. Denmark were the better team, and in all likelihood would have won anyway, so why not let them do that without a fuck up from the officials?
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- An oasis in the middle of Somerset
- Bath City FC; Porthcawl RFC;Wales in most things.
- Fig roll - deal with it.
Sometimes, when you are rubbish and a better team beats you, you can be sanguine. Well done, Denmark. Contrary to my thoughts during the game, I am not sure that Gunter instead of Williams would’ve made a difference. That is all, can't really analyse the match nor complain about certain decisions.
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Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
I saw this earlier and just remembered to ask about it. Are the Danish government enacting racist policies, or is it something she's said personally?
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Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
The interviewer asked him about his future plans and he just knocked the mic away and walked off.
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- Mar 2008
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- An oasis in the middle of Somerset
- Bath City FC; Porthcawl RFC;Wales in most things.
- Fig roll - deal with it.
That was one of those situations where, as proud as I am of how he conducts himself as a professional, I was quite pleased to see the emotion in that he was fairly pissed off. Also, as someone who gets irritated as he can't hear well, I can sympathise that he was getting pissed off with the Danish support being so loud (which is, of course, their prerogative).
On a more sober (or, technically, drunker) reflection, I wonder if we fell into a cult of Kieffer Moore too much. Over the last decade, we have played on the floor out of the back with balls through from midfielders into the feet of players to score goals. Don't get me wrong, there have been goals from set pieces as well as goals from crosses onto the heads of Moore, Bale, Vokes etc. However, we haven't played long balls to a striker in the way that we did today...or, perhaps we have and it seemed moreso today as it was less successful.
I am not sure what the alternative is as I haven't seen the likes of Tyler Roberts, Rabbi Matondo or Ben Woodburn to know whether they are the answer in the long-term. Pushing Bale up certainly isn't.
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Originally posted by ooh aah View PostThe second goal was a defensive fuck up. That doesn't alter the fact it should have been disallowed. A foul doesn't stop being a foul just because the team committing it has been playing better. I don't really have a problem with the referee missing a foul, that happens. What I have a problem with is the failure of the VAR system to be used properly. Denmark were the better team, and in all likelihood would have won anyway, so why not let them do that without a fuck up from the officials?
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Beaten by a far better side on the day, though I think the 0-2 scoreline it was heading for until those last mad few minutes would have been a fairer reflection of the game than 0-4.
Denmark played the ref even better than they played us. Their constant diving and exaggeration of contact fed in to his reading of the whole game which slanted towards them. There were no better illustrations of that than the absurd decision to allow play to go on for the second goal when Moore was fouled (not that Neco's subsequent brainfade wasn't appalling) and Wilson's red card.
VAR shouldn't have been used for the Moore incident though (and it would be an even worse development than it appears if something that far back in a move is analysed) and the ref wasn't responsible for the result. Our own anaemic attacking play, lack of structure and uncharacteristic sloppiness in defence were the bigger factors. The game sort of crystallised some of my pondering recently on how good or not we (and Page) actually are.
Now's not the time for that though, it's a sign of how far we've come that a R16 exit is such a huge disappointment. Still proud of the boys but quietly furious that they've been dragged thousands of miles across Europe and denied more than a handful of our own supporters while having to face effectively three home crowds for Turkey, Italy and Denmark. I'm just glad I made one game in the tournament and that it was such a blast being there.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 27-06-2021, 08:27.
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Originally posted by Ray de Galles View PostThe game sort of crystallised some of my pondering recently on how good or not we (and Page) actually are.
[...] Still proud of the boys but quietly furious that they've been dragged thousands of miles across Europe and denied more than a handful of our own supporters while having to face effectively three home crowds for Turkey, Italy and Denmark
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