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    Originally posted by Various Artist View Post
    My brain may be frazzled by all the shifting permutations, but am I right in thinking that if Portugal and France play out a draw they're both through no matter what happens in the other game?
    Correct. Both Portugal and Germany would have to lose for Portugal to go out.

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      Germany playing for the draw, in the corner

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        Thanks DR and Sheep - and Sean!

        I missed all the pre-match buildup, so was this flagged up then, given we're now back to the same position we started the day in?
        Last edited by Various Artist; 23-06-2021, 20:54.

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          Germany don't seem to realise they could win the group with a goal.

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            Sané really has been utter wank.

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              Sane taking crapness to a new level with that cross.

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                Hungary a better side than a lot of the third placed teams.

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                  That looked like more of a penalty than France's earlier one

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                    But Germany are through and Hungary, thank god, are out.

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                      Umpire's call.

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                        I don't think Germany will be particularly fazed about playing England.

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                          Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post

                          100% this (apart from the hair bit which I'm not sure I understand).
                          Yeah well, the rain has seriously fucked up his hair.

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                            Looking like France-Switzerland and Germany-England now.

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                              Both Portugal and France seem to have taken a chill pill.

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                                Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                                Hungary a better side than a lot of the third placed teams.
                                Yeah I'm not sure they would have been the easy draw for England that many were making out. Meanwhile Germany were painful to watch

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                                  Now confirmed, along with Sweden-Ukraine, and Belgium-Portugal.

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                                    Originally posted by Logan Mountstuart View Post

                                    Yeah well, the rain has seriously fucked up his hair.
                                    Ah, gotcha.

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                                      It's Another Day in Paradise for Germany.

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                                        Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                                        I don't think Germany will be particularly fazed about playing England.
                                        I'd be concerned that England will get through that shaky defence, and Germany are rather too one-paced to break England down. I slightly fancy England but penalties are favourite.

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                                          Incredible seeing Sane play so fucking horrendously.

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                                            Glad Hungary and their blackshirts are out, but Rossi seems like a genuinely nice bloke, and I'm reassured that ad hoc and others have noted that younger people in Hungary, and some of their team are not prepared to put up with Orban's shit.

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                                              Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post

                                              I'd be concerned that England will get through that shaky defence, and Germany are rather too one-paced to break England down. I slightly fancy England but penalties are favourite.
                                              Lineker already hinting that England are on the easier side of the draw.

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                                                Fairly lopsided draw

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                                                  Portugal should have conceded a goal to get into the easier half of the tournament

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                                                    It looks good for the Netherlands in that regard

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