Our new badge what do you think?

[Jumbo McGinnis]

AFC Wimbledon’s badge change must up there with one of the most pointless changes in recent years.

[ursus arctos]

A longer version of the Caesar link from the generally serious Civic Heraldry of England and Wales

The double-headed eagle is the reputed symbol of Julius Caesar, whose association, more or less mythical, with Wimbledon is indicated by 'Caesar's Camp' and 'Caesar's Well'. The golden rose and the golden fret on the wings of the eagle, typify the connection of the Sovereigns of England and the Spencer family respectively with Wimbledon, the Manor having been in the ownership of the Crown for many years during the 16th and 17th centuries, and afterwards passing to the Spencers, whose arms feature a fret. The gold and blue border is taken from the arms of the De Warrenne family, who for long bore the title of Earls of Surrey, and is intended to mark the connection of County and Borough.
The mural crown, refers to civic government and sheaf of corn is the prominent object in the crest of the Cecil family, once Lords of the Manor of Wimbledon and owners of Wimbledon House, and now represented by the Marquis of Exeter. The memory of Lord Burghley or Burleigh, the great Minister of State in the days of Elizabeth I, and a member of the Cecil family, is preserved locally in Burghley Road. The choughs are taken from the arms of Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex, to whom the Manor of Wimbledon was given by Henry VIII

[Ray de Galles]

Yes, I think that chimes with the link in my original post on the issue. We're saying the same thing, aren't we?

You probably know that the eagle stems from " A totally baseless local legend says that Caesar invaded England and camped at Wimbledon. There is still an area of Wimbledon Common known as Caesar's Camp".

[ursus arctos]

Yes, we are.

i think that was some confusion earlier in the thread among the Roman Imperial arms, those of the Eastern Romans/Byzantines and those attributed to Caesar as an individual in the Middle Ages, which were the basis for the Borough's use of the device

Here is an example of those attributed arms

[lambers]

The eagles of Charlemagne and Caesar appear to be shaking their fists at some street kids who have accidentally kicked a ball into their window.

[Levin]

Alexander would be better off buying a decent set of nail clippers

[3 Colours Red]

Alexander would be better off buying a decent set of nail clippers

It's alright, it looks like Hector's coming around to help him out... but that axe looks a bit big! What a great, big, silly old Hector.

[Favourite Worst Nightmare]

You probably know that the eagle stems from " A totally baseless local legend says that Caesar invaded England and camped at Wimbledon. There is still an area of Wimbledon Common known as Caesar's Camp".

Other historians report that Caesar defeated a strong army, who were beaten as a consequence of the intimidation by the Roman soldiers Vincent Jonius and Johnus Fashaselfservious shouting “Yidaho” on the advance to the battleground.

[Crystal Staples]

My guess is that it's become popular because:

- the circle is easy to fit on merchandise and works as an 'icon' on web pages
- the team name is rendered in quite large type
- you can fit pretty much any crest in the middle

I imagine most teams could easily adopt it if they wanted.

Easier to stitch onto a batch of shirts is another reason I saw suggested earlier.

County have "evolved" (their word) the club badge into a circle today:

[Forest Gump]

Here's Eastleigh's new effort

[Levin]

What plane is that meant to be? The wings are sort of but not a spitfire and the fusilage is all wrong.

[Forest Gump]

What plane is that meant to be? The wings are sort of but not a spitfire and the fusilage is all wrong.

According to WIki:

"The club were without an official nickname until 2005 when a competition was run amongst the fans and "Spitfires" was chosen by supporter Mike Wimbridge. The Spitfire aeroplane was built in Southampton and first flown from Eastleigh Aerodrome, now Southampton Airport.

After the club gained its official nickname the club had an irregular mascot, Sammy the Spitfire, who was a dog. However, in 2015 a new mascot was selected, Brooksy the Bear, in honour of Mr Derik Brooks, who founded the club in 1946."

[Ray de Galles]

Oh great, more fetishising of WWII from a club that weren't even formed at the time and who invented the nickname less than twenty years ago.

Arseholes.

[Benjm]

Do opposing fans shout "Shitfires!" at them? Disappointing if not.

[Sam]

I know this bit of the discussion has passed, and that the Russian thing was a red herring anyway, but for what it's worth, the adoption of the double-headed eagle in Russia came about as a result of the idea that Moscow should become a successor to the Byzantine Empire, and 'the third Rome' (after the first Rome, which was called Rome, and the second Rome, which was called Constantinople). So yes, the double-headed eagle is definitely a Roman thing as well as (and before) being a Russian thing.

[Mumpo]

Oh great, more fetishising of WWII from a club that weren't even formed at the time and who invented the nickname less than twenty years ago.

Arseholes

Would love to see that badge.

[3 Colours Red]

If you Google "goatse"...

No, no, that's a terrible idea.

If you Google "Piers Mo..."...

THAT'S EVEN WORSE!

[ursus arctos]

New logos (and sponsors) from the French pro leagues

BKT are an Indian company that makes tyres for industrial and agricultural vehicles

https://twitter.com/planetafobal/status/1273968966801727488

[Sits]

Crap

[Ray de Galles]

I think they're both an improvement on the previous logos (especially from the fucking Domino's one) but that's not saying much.

Not that anyone should care that much about a league's logo, apart from the fact they're increasingly prominent on club' sleeves.

[ursus arctos]

A breath of fresh air

https://twitter.com/lansingcommonfc/status/1287794883328192514

[Jumbo McGinnis]

Dull. Another roundel.

[Nocturnal Submission]

A breath of fresh air

https://twitter.com/lansingcommonfc/status/1287794883328192514

Nice satire.

[Ray de Galles]

That is fantastic and even better now I've found out they're a real team and not something from the Streatham Rovers universe.

[Sits]

That’s nice.