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  • Voidoid
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    Originally posted by Billy Casper View Post
    I agree that the new angle made the ground look better. My only slight complaint is that it makes it more difficult to see how many away fans have travelled, which is something that I always look out for.
    That’ll be fairly straight forward at Luton this year, there will be 1000 away fans at every game as that’s the full allocation anyone will get with all home areas sold out and I would imagine everyone in the league bar maybe Wigan will fill it.

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  • Billy Casper
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    I agree that the new angle made the ground look better. My only slight complaint is that it makes it more difficult to see how many away fans have travelled, which is something that I always look out for.

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  • Voidoid
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    Originally posted by longeared View Post
    Luton v Middlesbrough has the cameras on the opposite side of Kenilworth Road to usual.
    The club were pretty much forced by Sky & the EFL to build a huge camera gantry the length of the ‘executive’ boxes that the cameras normally face - I thought the old ground looked great from the new angle and certainly added to the atmosphere on tv.

    The programme notes said a lot on how the board feel about being forced into this and other changes though.

    "However, as a newcomer entering this new world as a rising star after winning our league below, we have needed to spend over £1m on stadium facilities – to include goal-line technology, new television camera positions, new press areas, new dugouts, not including the numerous commercial and safety enhancements we’ve made – all in order to be compliant to provide armchair viewers a comfortable platform to watch tonight’s game.”

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  • longeared
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    Luton v Middlesbrough has the cameras on the opposite side of Kenilworth Road to usual.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    What I meant was not that it wasn't a bloody defeat, which it was, but that naming parts of football grounds after it was more to do with a remembrance of the British & Irish lives lost or some similar sentiment.

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  • The Awesome Berbaslug!!!
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    Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post
    Steep hill/steep terrace is the connection, of course, plus the timing. Recognising a defeat is odd though, but perhaps that wasn't the way it was seen at the time.
    it was a disaster that shook the empire. 20,000 british regulars and artillery vs 8000 boers. and a lot less artillery. Professional soldiers vs farmers. It's like naming a stand at lords cricket ground after the obliteration of the cairo gang on bloody sunday.

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  • Sporting
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    Here's another FB post on the subject which may be of interest:

    "In answer to the question of when the TV camera vantage points changed from the Kemlyn Road stand to the Main stand, I think I can answer that question.

    Prior to 1964 practically all film shot at Anfield was from the half way line and normally up against the wall that separated the Paddock and the Main stand.Then in 1964 and the birth of Match of the Day, a TV gantry was built under the Kemlyn Road roof and was then used continuously by all the TV companies until 1971.

    The very last match that Granada-ITV filmed from there was the 2-2 game with Blackpool on January 9th 1971 and shot in black and white.(I've included a film shot of Heighway scoring in the Anny Road end.) The last time BBC used the Kemlyn gantry was for the FA cup tie with Southampton on February13th 1971 when Lawler scored the only goal in the Kop end and was shot in colour.

    After the completion of the new Main stand roof,a new TV gantry was installed and was first used on the night of March 10th when Alun Evans scored a hat trick against Bayern Munich.It was also the night when the new lights installed on the main stand roof and above the Kemlyn road roof were used for the first time. These were quite an innovation at the time and so superior to the corner floodlights that had been used in the past.They were so powerful by the standards of the time that the photographers no longer had to use flash photography and they were loved by the TV companies now shooting all in colour."

    Photos here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1880...?ref=bookmarks
    Last edited by Sporting; 07-02-2019, 20:12.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    Steep hill/steep terrace is the connection, of course, plus the timing. Recognising a defeat is odd though, but perhaps that wasn't the way it was seen at the time.

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  • Del Usory
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    Sunderland games in the early to mid sixties were televised from one of the corners, as can be seen in a couple of the early clips in this interesting compilation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg5UL8JRm4M
    A proud tradition carried on by Darlo well into the 70s

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  • Del Usory
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    Because a football terrace doesn't look like the Valley of Death or Khartoum.
    And they were all built before 1940.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    Gandhi was a stretcher-bearer during the battle.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Because a football terrace doesn't look like the Valley of Death or Khartoum.

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  • The Awesome Berbaslug!!!
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    Does anyone know why so many UK football terraces are named after perhaps the most hideously embarrassing military defeat suffered by the UK in their whole Empire phase?

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  • ursus arctos
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    Ha.

    I knew that was from West Street when the album came out.

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  • diggedy derek
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    I haven't felt such a profound sense of completion since this

    http://www.popspotsnyc.com/blonde_on_blonde/

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  • Sporting
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    So anyway, I took the question I asked in the first post (my first one ever here) of this thread along to the FB Liverpool FC Historical Group and after some interesting posts a man called George Sephton [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Sephton] who is the Liverpool stadium announcer confirmed that:

    "My first game was on August 14th 1971. There were still a few workmen finishing off the TV gantry but I was the first to use it I think. When I had my job interview in April 1971 the rebuilding of the main stand was in full flow."

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  • Mumpo
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    I was watching the ole youtube the other day and noticed that up until 1970/71 televised matches at Anfield had the Kop on the left of the screen. But a couple of years later (not sure exactly when the change occured) the Kop was to the right. I thought initially that this had something to do with the building work at Anfield which (I think) was completed between 1972 and 1973. But I may well be wrong. So when did the camera positions change at Liverpool`s ground?
    Bill Shankly requested it be switched round at the end of the 72/73 season because, he thought, it would be better for TV viewers to see the team moving the ball from right to left, thus subliminally reinforcing their socialist credentials. In fact there's that famous quote of his: "We're switching round at the end of the 72/73 season because, I think, it would be better for TV viewers to see the team moving the ball from right to left, thus subliminally reinforcing their socialist credentials". He had a way with words, old Shankly.
    Last edited by Mumpo; 07-09-2018, 12:01.

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  • Gangster Octopus
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    I'm old enough to remember being able to do that at Millmoor...

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  • Kevin S
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    Originally posted by Gangster Octopus View Post
    During the Radio 5 commentary of the first half of Watford-Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday, they described the Spurs' fans as being away to their right. Then watching the second half on telly in the pub, the Spurs' fans were on the camera's left.
    Dur, that's because they change ends at half time.

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  • Gangster Octopus
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    During the Radio 5 commentary of the first half of Watford-Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday, they described the Spurs' fans as being away to their right. Then watching the second half on telly in the pub, the Spurs' fans were on the camera's left.

    Have Preston changed their camera position or the away fans' end?

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  • Sporting
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    Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
    It must have been even more disorientating to have Italy gatecrash the fixture.
    Hah! Early morning loss of mind on my behalf!

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    I started watching the Germany - Italy game last night on German TV and the Germans were kicking in the first half towards the right end (I think this is the usual camera angle at the Allianz). Then I zapped over to see if the match was on French TV and I was a bit confused at first, as I thought the first half had ended rather suddenly and that the second period had begun. But no, for French viewers, the broadcasters were using the opposite side of the stadium to film from. The predominance of adverts for French companies on the advertising boards opposite gives us the answer as to why.
    It must have been even more disorientating to have Italy gatecrash the fixture.

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  • HORN
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    Originally posted by dogbeak View Post
    In my mind's eye, my old seat at St. James' Park was behind the left-hand goal, as viewed on television. This is completely backwards, and I know it to be so, but I still can't change the way my brain works.
    Ditto my Vale Park seat. Even twenty-odd years later I still find the TV footage seems arse-about-face, with visiting team scorers seeming to run to the home end to celebrate.

    This is in complete contrast to my Newport seat which is only a few yards from the TV gantry, hence the TV highlights tie in unerringly with my recollection.
    Last edited by HORN; 07-09-2018, 07:36.

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  • Sporting
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    I started watching the Germany - Italy game last night on German TV and the Germans were kicking in the first half towards the right end (I think this is the usual camera angle at the Allianz). Then I zapped over to see if the match was on French TV and I was a bit confused at first, as I thought the first half had ended rather suddenly and that the second period had begun. But no, for French viewers, the broadcasters were using the opposite side of the stadium to film from. The predominance of adverts for French companies on the advertising boards opposite gives us the answer as to why.

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  • Sporting
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    Sunderland games in the early to mid sixties were televised from one of the corners, as can be seen in a couple of the early clips in this interesting compilation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg5UL8JRm4M

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