I only saw the last 10 minutes or so but it really looked like Wales were hanging on at the end there.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostApart from the five goals they nearly scored in that time frame.
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The referee in the France vs Germany game did not put in his greatest ever shift. If the penalty for Germany was dubious, the one he gave France was absurd. And not giving Germany a penalty for the foul on Hummels in the 86rd minute was more than just a little careless.
It's a strange thing: the third game Germany didn't deserve to lose, and the third game Germany didn't deserve to win. They should have two more points than they now have.
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Originally posted by elguapo4 View PostBy all means O'Neill should go but it doesn't matter in the short term because the players aren't good enough either,We can wish for whatever new broom would come in but who are the world beaters who aren't in the squad,we'll still be looking at dross like Keogh and Arter, Georgia must be dying for another cut at us.
The current shite is such an assault on the senses.
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That's true. It will be six extra competitive games for any Tier A player who reaches the final and doesn't miss one. That's a lot compared to trundling through a few friendlies where no tackles are flying in and you probably get a rest at some point. It's probably a greater benefit the farther you go down the tiers, and countries are getting noticed whose games would be ignored in a group of six or seven.
It's also a chance to clear out dead wood before the EC qualifiers start, so for example you don't get lumbered with MON for a full campaign. Coaches who had a poor World Cup like Joachim Löw get one last chance at redemption or a confirmation that their role is untenable.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 16-10-2018, 22:48.
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South should give the gig to whichever Dragon's Denizen finishes 2nd in the pres election. Then merge with an upcoming Euro power like Finland or Gibraltar
Meanwhile, NI fans are impressed by Jamal Lewis but he has been at fault for a goal in all 3 games. Kyle Vassell looked lost but has only had brief subs.
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The Denis O'Brien money needs to go. The Ireland gig should not be a retirement payoff for over the hill high profile managers. Get in a young, cheap and motivated manager who is aware of what has happened in football since the turn of the century, and will actually put in 40 hours a week.
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It's two matches (semi final and either the final or bronze match) and these four teams are placed into the Euro qualifying groups that have five rather than six teams, saving a home and away qualifier.
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Originally posted by Reginald ChristWell, that was as grim as expected. Ireland are a colossal waste of time.
Agree with elguapo4 that even sacking O’Neill won’t do much as the players aren’t good enough. Also agree with AP that if Ireland are condemned to lose to superior teams they might as well try to play attacking football. But we’ve all been here before, several times. We have to break out of this boom and bust cycle where we
a) appoint an astute, experienced manager whose best work is well behind them
b) qualify for a tournament by being organised and tough to beat, usually with a heroic 1-0 victory over a major nation
c) stink out the place when we get there
d) give the manager a new contract immediately before the qualifiers for the next tournament
e) watch in horror as it all falls apart
f) resume from step a)
Someone on Twitter asked how many genuinely entertaining games Ireland had been involved in since the 2002 World Cup and the responses don’t make for encouraging reading. We just don’t play good football. We haven’t for a long time. And we’ll be moving in ever decreasing circles if we don’t learn the lessons of campaigns like this one and reform our football infrastructure. Will it ever happen? It doesn’t feel like it will.
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Originally posted by Kevin S View PostIt's two matches (semi final and either the final or bronze match) and these four teams are placed into the Euro qualifying groups that have five rather than six teams, saving a home and away qualifier.
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Stats (a bit rushed so I stand to be corrected):
Iceland are relegated and Ukraine promoted. Germany, Croatia and Poland are probably down.
Still 100%: Portugal, Belgium, Ukraine, Bosnia, Finland, Georgia
0%: San Marino, Lithuania, Slovakia, N Ireland, Iceland
Biggest positive surprises: Gibraltar, Luxembourg
Shittest displays by recent (post-2014) finals tournament participants: Germany, Iceland, Croatia (so far), Poland, N Ireland, ROI, Albania, Sweden
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Originally posted by seand View PostIn pretty much any other country in the world the manager of a team that won four of the last five national titles would be the unquestioned first choice. Not in Ireland, thankfully (speaking as a Dundalk fan)
This leads me to ask something I've long wondered, how is the LOI perceived by Irish football supporters in general? Does the level of focus on the English leagues in Ireland see the LOI equated with "non-league" (not by supporters of it's clubs, obviously) as is often the case with the Welsh Premier League?
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