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Originally posted by Simon G View PostI've often thought that if refs explained some of their decisions, or even held their hands up on a bad one, then they wouldn't get as much grief as they do.
I apologise too, though sparingly. I called an offside last weekend when there was a defender so far back I hadn't registered him at first. Very poor call, but if you apologise then it generally calms players straightaway. Sometimes I suspect that I missed something and may mutter an apology to the player (possibly) fouled along the lines that my sight-line was blocked. Which is sometimes true, and sometimes just a dishonest way of saying that I didn't see it at all, but the players are going to lose faith in you pretty fast if you start admitting to that too often.
Also @SimonG - good on your coach for red-carding you and throwing you out of the starting line-up. Consider yourself lucky that he was so lenient - if I'd been your coach you'd never have played for the team again.
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He wouldn't have chucked me off the team - I brought in most of our players from my school. We had much worse arguments over the years, and I'd like to think I was right more often than not. I did deserve the red, I admit that, but I've never properly forgiven him for not giving the foul.
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Originally posted by Furtho View Post
A couple of weeks ago I was at a game with club linesmen. The ref overruled one of them to award a corner and a short while later he came over and said to the linesman, Sorry, I shouldn't have done that, wrong decision. "TOO FUCKING LATE FOR THAT NOW, REF, ISN'T IT," came the reply.
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Love the idea of imp with his own range of American football style signals.
The best reply I've heard from a harassed ref came last season when a youngish female ref was being queried by a coach on allegedly persistent foul play from the opposition.... "I didn't see persistent fouling. I can only call what I see, but rest assured if I see foul play I'll act on it. For both sides"
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My first game at Level 8, with actual paying spectators and all. In short: faster, better game, but still with loads of fouling and moaning.
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Essentially it is down to the disciplinary committee of the relevant FA, district, county etc. The ref and assistants would complete their match reports, and this is then in the hands of the committee to decide on any bans and their length.
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The league my sons play in (Burton Junior Football League) are doing the sin bin thing for dissent this season. The younger ones team (u12) don't really seem to be at an age yet where dissent is a thing, but the older ones (u15) definitely are. The threat of the sin bin is really working though to be fair - there's a couple of gobby players on his team who would regularly spout off last season- this season they're getting clamped down on straight away by their own team mates.
The refs in general this season have been very impressive too, always explaining their decisions and doing a very good job.
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Funny incident this week in a First Div game here. Penalty awarded, penalty saved, in the congratulations afterwards a defender takes the ball off the keeper to take a 'goal kick', but ball is still live and pay ongoing, cue second penalty for handball....
No idea how to post links (lazy and tech-blind) so for those interested, go to www.islandstats.com, look at Premier and First Division Round up and look at the video (about 2:10 onwards).
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Love the Bermuda clip - especially the ruthless laughter.
I've got some more quiz questions soon once I get around to translating and transcribing them.
In the meantime, this week's blog celebrates an actual sane and calm captain doing the job a captain's supposed to do.
An online report of my first level 8 game last week claimed there was a "breath-taking" gate of 300 there. It didn't look that many to me, but I'll take it - easily my all-time biggest attendance as a ref.
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"The number 10 does come and apologise to him about five minutes after the final whistle, but for me that's way too late for contrition, so I don't mention the gesture in the match report."
Maybe he'd been waiting for things to calm down, perhaps including himself? It''s better than nothing, surely?
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Yep, better than nothing, but not real regret - he'd clearly been sent over by his coach. If you're really sorry about something like that you apologise straightaway - there'd been absolutely no malice or provocation from the number 7 whose leg he could easily have broken. He wasn't apologising when he was arguing the toss with opponents on his way to the dressing-room.
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Congratulations imp!
So much to love in that Bermuda penalty clip, like the way the ref has his arm round the keeper in a consoling looking way for ages. Feel sorry for the keeper as well, two pelanty saves, and still shipping a goal. Bermuda definitely on my list for an action Groundhop.
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Originally posted by Nesta View PostWho were the teams in the clip btw?
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Originally posted by DPDPDPDP View PostImp, a question for you. A player gets fouled in the penalty box and is injured in the process and required treatment. The player in question is normally the designated penalty taker. Is that player allowed to take the penalty kick or must he leave the field of play? Thanks.
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Originally posted by elguapo4 View Post
Wasn't there a new rule that if it's a yellow card offence the player doesn't have to leave the field after treatment? So it could depend on that.
The change elguapo4 is commenting on happened 2 years ago I believe.
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