Thank you very much, dd and ah. To reward you, here's a new column on the need for a law to curb excessive goal celebrations, inspired by events at Gainsborough Trinity v Alfreton Town. (It's my firm belief that if you can't find inspiration in Gainsborough, you won't find it anywhere.)
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Back into the fray this weekend with three games, including one at a club where, earlier this season, I was assaulted for the first time as a ref (though 'only' with a shirt to the face). Have they improved their behaviour? Does the pope wear a condom?
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Just seen a referee's nightmare scenario at the end of Bielefeld v Union Berlin. 1-1, 3 minutes of added time. As the three minutes are expiring, Bielefeld break up a Berlin counter-attack just inside their own half. Ref calls the foul and cards the player. Free-kick is taken and cleared by Bielefeld to the left side of the penalty area. That would have been the moment to blow for full-time. Ref waits, though, and Berlin centre again. Bielefeld keeper punches the ball out to a Berlin player on the edge of the area. Referee blows the first of his three long peeps for full-time just as the ball arrives at the Berlin player's foot. He controls it and and fires home as the second peep is being blasted. At the third peep, with the ref signalling 'no goal', he's already being surrounded by enraged Berlin players. I felt sorry for the young lad, as he'd had a good game from what I'd seen of the second half.
Bielefeld coach Saibene admitted his team had been lucky, but wondered why the ref played almost four minutes of stoppage time "for no reason", when he could have avoided the situation. Well, aside from the fact your player stopped a counter-attack and got booked. Tough call. True, time was up. But that's a shitty moment to blow the final whistle. Happened to me once - ref blew as my shot was sailing in to the top corner to salvage a point from a looming 3-2 defeat. "Tough shit, mate, but well played," said the nearest opponent (or something similar), and shook my hand. I was too gobsmacked to complain to the ref.
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I've certainly heard a story - and feel like I've seen the video - of a ref somewhere lashing a free kick into the top corner after getting fed up with the amount of time the attacking team were spending discussing how to take it. But I can't find a video of it now.
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My question stems from a general curiosity but also from watching Ind del Valle-Banfield in the Libertadores the other night. Banfield had three excellent chances in a row (one of those situations where the defenders can't get the ball out of the box). And when it was finally cleared it rolled straight toward the ref who was standing at the top of the box. I thought to myself: "kick it" since he had a perfect angle to place the ball in either top corner.
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You'd have to be tempted - your reffing career would be over, but provided you scored then you'd be an instant global social media phenom, get book deals, chat show appearances blah blah. Surprising that it hasn't happened yet.
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Originally posted by imp View PostYou'd have to be tempted - your reffing career would be over, but provided you scored then you'd be an instant global social media phenom, get book deals, chat show appearances blah blah. Surprising that it hasn't happened yet.
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A commentator on Five Live today insisted, in the context of diving, that "exaggerated contact" and "simulation" are different, but this seems to me to be a distinction without a difference. Feeling a slight brush and falling down as if hit by a bullet is no different in its essential cheating deception than somersaulting Klinsmann-like over an outstretched leg. Both should be penalized the same, no?
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I agree.
In the US I was playing in an Over-35s game and we were holding a very good opponent to 0-0 right up until the final minute. Our keeper made a great save and pushed the ball out left, I shadowed the opponent who'd followed the ball out to the right side of the penalty area. My right knee grazed the back of his thigh and he went sprawling. The lads who were warming up behind the goal-line for the next game all burst out laughing. The ref blew for a penalty. My players went so berserk I thought they were going to maim the ref - he should have sent at least two of them off (in the end he just gave out one yellow card). I was the captain and should have been calming them down but I was too upset to even speak. They scored and won 1-0. It's the only penalty I've given away in my life. In the car on the way home I almost did a John Terry because I thought I'd let my team down. I was 44.
See kids, that's what cheating can do to a grown man.
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This weekend I met a teenage boy who just wouldn't listen. Until I started to get a bit psycho.
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Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View PostI genuinely don't know a) how and b) why you do it, imp.
Great read as always.
Thank you. As for motivation - it took me 15 years to turn the US into a soccer-crazy, socialist paradise (went right down hill after I left - honestly, the minute your back's turned you get Trump and a failure to qualify for the World Cup). I estimate it will take about the same length of time to teach Germany good manners.
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