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    So, yesterday I finally lost it. In one sense, it took me by surprise. In another sense, it's been a long time coming. And though I probably made a twat of myself, I don't regret it at all.
    Game 19, 2018-19 Another Sunday, and another afternoon in the reserve leagues choking on dregs from the bottom of the sporting barrel. ...

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      Some questions for you from my latest refereeing online test:

      1. While the ball's in play, the goalkeeper - standing on his line - makes a loud and clear criticism aimed at the referee for a previous call. What's your decision, and where does play re-start?

      2. Number 6 on the attacking team scores a goal from the edge of the penalty area, but the referee notices before the re-start that his team-mate, number 12, is now on the field of play as the team's twelfth player. As he didn't participate in the build-up to the goal, the referee is not 100% sure that he was on the field of play when the goal was scored. Decision?

      3. A goal is scored, but before the re-start the referee determines that the player who scored was on the field of play illegally as his team's twelfth player. What's the decision, and to what should you pay particular attention?

      4. Unnoticed by the referee, an attacker scores a goal thanks to an unnatural hand movement. After the defending side protests, the referee asks the goal-scorer what happened and he admits, "Yep, I scored using my hand." Decisions?

      5. An attacker is running towards an empty goal when an opposing sub runs on to the field and pulls the attackers shirt over the course of several yards. In the penalty area the attacker indeed falls to the ground, but manages to knock the ball in to the goal. What's the decision?

      6. Penalty kicks, and after 11 kicks per team it's still level. The eleventh kicker on the home team now steps up to take the twelfth penalty kick, feeling confident as he's just fired one in. Is this allowed?

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        Well I have no idea but they're great questions.

        1. Stop play, yellow card, drop ball?
        2. Can't disallow a goal on guesswork so it stands?
        3. Goal kick, remove the 'scorer' so the team has to make a proper substitution
        4. Goal stands and you take it in the chin. Next time, don't ask.
        5. Advantage played, goal stands, red card to the sub
        6. Sure why not?
        Last edited by Kevin S; 27-03-2019, 08:17.

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          Also guesses:

          1. As with Kevin S. Drop ball where it was when you stopped play.
          2. Consult your assistant (if you have one) to try and ascertain what has happened.
          3. As with Kevin. Caution the player concerned.
          4. If play hasn't restarted you can change your mind and disallow the goal. Award the 'scorer' a gold star.
          5. You should halt the game when the substitute enters the field of play. Red card.
          6. I think the rule is that the penalties have to be taken in the same order as notified to the referee once the eleventh has been taken, so you should order the player who took the first penalty to take the twelfth.

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            For number one I would have said play on and then give him a yellow when play stops. But the question rather gives away that I would obviously be wrong.

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              1. I agree with ad hoc - allow play until the ball goes dead, then book the keeper. Play restarts from where the ball went dead.
              2. Agree with Kevin S - goal stands
              3. Again - as per Kevin S.
              4. Goal disallowed and free-kick awarded to defending team.
              5. As per Capybara
              6. Again - as per Capybara. I think penalties have to be taken in the same order.

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                Originally posted by Capybara View Post


                6. I think the rule is that the penalties have to be taken in the same order as notified to the referee once the eleventh has been taken, so you should order the player who took the first penalty to take the twelfth.
                Unless he or she suddenly pulls up with an injury?

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                  All answers based on my ongoing course at the Armchair University ...

                  1. How often do refs stop play because they've been insulted? Can't remember the last time it happened in Proper Telly Football, don't know about imp's level (ooh, get me). So book him (if at all, harden up ref!) only when play has stopped, like after playing advantage.
                  2. Check with lino who let player on. If no new info, goal stands.
                  3. You really need to have a word with that lino. No goal, "pay attention to ... " - where you restart? Could it have come from a corner, throw-in, does it matter? If not, goal kick to opposition.
                  4. Free kick, no goal, accept defender's word, give him/her security escort after game.
                  5. Goal stands. You were slow in responding, but issue is no longer what you should have done. You "accidentally" played advantage.
                  6. Defer to other answers, same order? But would be much more fun if teams could change order, let's see who's bottling it now.

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                    Just checked up on 6 on IFAB.

                    SPOILER: Show
                    Turns out I'm right...
                    * Each kick is taken by a different player and all eligible players must take a kick before any player can take a second kick
                    * The above principle continues for any subsequent sequence of kicks but a team may change the order of kickers

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                      Originally posted by tee rex View Post
                      2. Check with lino who let player on. If no new info, goal stands.
                      3. You really need to have a word with that lino. No goal, "pay attention to ... " - where you restart? Could it have come from a corner, throw-in, does it matter? If not, goal kick to opposition.
                      I should note that these questions are aimed at my level - no linesmen to consult, you're on yer own out there.

                      Re. question 4. If the striker admits they handled, then of course you disallow the goal. The question is, though - would you still yellow card them? They've been sporting enough to admit the offence - in the real word I would spare them a card and write something in the game report commending them for sporting behaviour. But that may not be the answer they're looking for.

                      I've posted these out of this month's 15 because I wasn't sure on first look without consulting the Laws and their guidelines. Keep the answers coming. Definitive answers April 1.

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                        Without Googling or referencing the laws of the game, I can't resist having a stab....

                        1. Play on, book him when ball next out of play
                        2. If you've no lino to consult with you can't take action on for an 'offence' you're not sure occurred
                        3. Obviously disallow it, no idea how or where to restart
                        4. Great... disallow it, shake the attacker's hand.
                        5. Well it's advantage so the goal stands and yellow card. I'd like to send off the sub, but I'm not sure if you can really- I don't see any red card offence. It's not violent conduct, serious foul play or DOGSO. Unless you can card him for entering the field AND for unsporting behaviour. (You're not going to stop the game when he enters the field of play as suggested above cos that's punishing the attacking team.)
                        6. I thought it was back to square one after 11 kicks each, so up to the team/manager who goes next.

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                          Can I briefly interrupt these questions/answers to ask one of my own?

                          I was under the impression that goalies had to wear a different coloured shirt to the outfield players, so how come the Chelsea keeper here (against PSG last night) seems to flout the rule? Disclaimer: I am slightly colour-blind so there may be shades going on here which I simply don't see,

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMCcXvw0M0A

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                            They are slightly different. The keeper seems to be wearing a light green and the players a yellow. They are fairly similar though

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                              Thanks. Another query: if you were a ref (and some of you are) would you give this goal to Messi or write it down in your match report as an own goal? Me, I think it should be recorded as a own goal:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZLjO8k3j6M

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                                So, here are the answers:

                                1. While the ball's in play, the goalkeeper - standing on his line - makes a loud and clear criticism aimed at the referee for a previous call. What's your decision, and where does play re-start?
                                A. Indirect free kick on the line of the 6-yard box, yellow card.

                                2. Number 6 on the attacking team scores a goal from the edge of the penalty area, but the referee notices before the re-start that his team-mate, number 12, is now on the field of play as the team's twelfth player. As he didn't participate in the build-up to the goal, the referee is not 100% sure that he was on the field of play when the goal was scored. Decision?
                                A. Goal, yellow card.

                                3. A goal is scored, but before the re-start the referee determines that the player who scored was on the field of play illegally as his team's twelfth player. What's the decision, and to what should you pay particular attention?
                                A. Direct free kick, where the player intervened in play, yellow card.

                                4. Unnoticed by the referee, an attacker scores a goal thanks to an unnatural hand movement. After the defending side protests, the referee asks the goal-scorer what happened and he admits, "Yep, I scored using my hand." Decisions?
                                A. Direct free kick, where the offence took place, no punishment. [I scored only one point on this - I went for giving the yellow card anyway. In a protest note to the Frankfurt Board of Referees' Education, I point out that we're always told that all the answers to these questions can be found in the Fifa Laws of the Game book if we look hard enough. "Where, I asked, does it say that a player is let off from punishment if he or she fesses up?" If they had offered me the possibility of answering, 'No card, followed by report on "Particularly sporting behaviour" (an option you have in your game report - have not used it once in four years)', then I would have chosen it. But we weren't. They've forwarded my note to the Hessen FA - meaning that they think I have a point.]

                                5. An attacker is running towards an empty goal when an opposing sub runs on to the field and pulls the attackers shirt over the course of several yards. In the penalty area the attacker indeed falls to the ground, but manages to knock the ball in to the goal. What's the decision?
                                A. Goal. Yellow - yellow/red. [Scored zero on this despite getting the punishment right as I opted for penalty. In a protest note etc. I point out that the Laws of the Game - where, remember, we find all the answers - state that when a third party such as a substitute player becomes involved in the game then play is stopped. The answer: you should play the advantage in this situation. I write back - there's nothing in the Laws about playing advantage in this situation, but much more seriously - if a player is nuts enough to run on the field during a game, he could easily be nuts enough to carry out a physical attack on an opponent. Therefore, because the security and health of the players is your absolute first priority as a referee, you should immediately whistle. But I doubt I'll hear back any more on this one.]

                                6. Penalty kicks, and after 11 kicks per team it's still level. The eleventh kicker on the home team now steps up to take the twelfth penalty kick, feeling confident as he's just fired one in. Is this allowed?
                                A. Yes.

                                I also got a question wrong about a player standing outside the penalty area spitting at an opponent who's inside the penalty area. I said 'red card and penalty kick', the correct answer is 'red card and direct free kick'. So I got only 23/30 this month, which is theoretically a fail (pass mark is 25) and means I won't be getting promoted to the Bundesliga any time soon. In fact because I'm over 50 I can't get promoted anywhere above the shite leagues I currently labour in, but the tests are still a matter of pride, and I hate getting below 25, which is one of the reasons I end up writing long emails to the poor bastard who sets the tests. I'm sure his heart sinks whenever he sees my name in his in-box the day that the answers are released.

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                                  Thanks for these imp - it's reading stuff like this that makes me realise how little about the rules I actually know,

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                                    Originally posted by Simon G View Post
                                    Thanks for these imp - it's reading stuff like this that makes me realise how little about the rules I actually know,
                                    Me too. Though these tests specialise in concocting unlikely scenarios that 99.99% of referees will never experience. The answers to the more obscure questions I forget instantly - what's the correct re-start when a mad hare runs on the pitch and throws its top hat at the ball, thus preventing a goal etc.

                                    Anyway, here's the latest blog, about how it is in fact possible for a team and their coaches to behave perfectly. Needless to say, they weren't German.
                                    Games 20-22, 2018-19 A couple of years back I refereed two games in one weekend involving ethnically based teams from the following fou...

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                                      Just so you don't think that being a ref in Germany's amateur leagues is always crap (though I can't think how my blog would have given that impression), here's a shorter, more positive post...
                                      Game 23, 2018-19 Last night's game is a girls' U15 Regional Cup semi-final, played by floodlight beneath an unrelenting rain. A 0-0 dra...

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                                        Originally posted by imp View Post
                                        Just so you don't think that being a ref in Germany's amateur leagues is always crap (though I can't think how my blog would have given that impression), here's a shorter, more positive post...
                                        Girls are just considerably less cuntish than boys aen't they? It's a bit of a generalisation, I know, but that's the way it is.

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                                          Originally posted by imp View Post
                                          Just so you don't think that being a ref in Germany's amateur leagues is always crap (though I can't think how my blog would have given that impression), here's a shorter, more positive post...
                                          Are the two things in bold related?

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                                            seand - women and girls seem to have a different approach to sport overall - it is a generalisation, you're right, but it's impossible not to notice a change in terms of fair play and attitude when you ref a game like this one. It helps too, though, that in this game both belonged to professional set-ups (1. FFC Frankfurt and Eintracht Frankfurt respectively). If I was allowed to referee higher up the men's chain I wouldn't be so plagued by choleric nutjobs.

                                            @GO - yes. For a reader I suspect that lengthy eulogies are dull.

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                                              Question for the refs; I was at an u18s international between Ireland and England last night. After the first England goal the entire team ran to their bench which was in their own half of the pitch. While they were celebrating Ireland took a quick kick off and were heading to an unguarded net when the referee whistled and called them back to wait until England were ready. Was this the legally correct decision or was it a case of "not the done thing old man" surely it's a case of,like boxing " Defend yourself at all times "

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                                                Don't you have to wait for the ref to whistle for the restart.

                                                On Imp's handball/ sporting behaviour question if players are going to get yellow carded for telling the truth they won't tell the truth.

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                                                  Originally posted by elguapo4 View Post
                                                  Question for the refs; I was at an u18s international between Ireland and England last night. After the first England goal the entire team ran to their bench which was in their own half of the pitch. While they were celebrating Ireland took a quick kick off and were heading to an unguarded net when the referee whistled and called them back to wait until England were ready. Was this the legally correct decision or was it a case of "not the done thing old man" surely it's a case of,like boxing " Defend yourself at all times "
                                                  Wrote a post about this last year, inspired - as one tends to be in northern Lincolnshire - by Gainsborough Trinity:
                                                  Last weekend, for my sins, I went with my Dad to watch Gainsborough Trinity play Alfreton Town, two teams at the lower end of the English r...

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                                                    Anyway, some more questions for you from this month's refereeing test. Hurry up with the answers, the deadline's Tuesday:

                                                    1. The referee sees that, with the ball in play, a defender standing in his/her own penalty area throws a snowball with force at an opposition team official, who's standing two yards outside the field of play, next to the goal. What decision does the referee make?

                                                    2. As the team-mate of the goalkeeper is taking a goal-kick, the goalkeeper leaves the field of play via the end-line. Before the ball has left the penalty area, the goalkeeper whacks a spectator around the head. What do you do?

                                                    3. Team A starts the game with seven players, including a goalkeeper. In the 12th. minute one of its players leaves the field for treatment. The physio says the player will be back on the field in two minutes. So the ref lets play continue and already after a minute the injured player is ready to come back on. Did the ref act correctly?

                                                    4. In a promising situation in the penalty area for the attacking team, an injured defender - who's off the field but right next to the goal - throws a spare ball on to the field in an attempt to hit the match ball. He/she misses, but the opponent is so distracted by the attempt that he/she messes up the attack. Decision?

                                                    5. In the second half a player gets a yellow card for foul play. The referee mistakenly thinks he's already given him/her a yellow earlier in the game, so shows him a red card. In response the player insults the referee. The AR has seen the mistake and brings it to the ref's attention. Now what?

                                                    6. Shortly before the end of the game the away team scores the winner to make it 2-1. The referee awards the goal, although his AR is standing there with his/her flag raised for offside. Because time is up and the ref hasn't seen the AR's flag, he/she blows for full-time right after giving the goal. The AR alerts the ref to the offside position of the goalscorer. What's the decision?

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