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    Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

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    Liverpool's first three away games are Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. Could be in the bottom three again by October ...

    #2
    Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

    I can't remember the last time we had a home game to start with.

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      #3
      Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

      Hull's first four home fixtures are Leicester, Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea. Grrrrrr, just as I was starting to get over Wembley and all.

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        Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

        Some talk of switching Liverpools opening home game against Burnley to Turf Moor due to the unfinished construction at Anfield.

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          Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

          Snake Plissken wrote: Some talk of switching Liverpools opening home game against Burnley to Turf Moor due to the unfinished construction at Anfield.
          Ooh, don't like that sort of thing. Back in 2004-05 Norwich were due to pay fellow promotees Palace at Selhurst, but it was agreed to switch to Carrow Rd. It felt like it added so much pressure that we needed to win it after the switch. Andrew Johnson getting them the draw felt like a massive blow right at the start of the season.

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            Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

            Heh, all of Leicester's post-Champions League matches are at home. And most of them against what would be assumed to be mid-table sides*, at best.

            Sep 17: Burnley (h)
            Oct 1: Southampton (h)
            Oct 22: Crystal Palace (h)
            Nov 5: West Brom (h)
            Nov 26: Middlesbrough (h)
            Dec 10: Manchester City (h)

            This bending over backwards to fix things in favour of Big Blue Clubs is become too much!

            * - assuming where sides will finish based on reputation in a post that references what happened to Leicester last season obviously shows I've learned nothing. And am proud of it.

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              Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

              It's a bit early and possibly the wrong thread to post up one frustration I've had with commentators in the Euros, but I've heard a couple of pundits filling time musing on how Leicester will fare if they draw Barcelona or Bayern Munich in the CL group stages.

              They won't. As English champions, they'll be seeded top. As will Barca, and Bayern. And Juve. And Real as champions. Leicester might get Atletico Madrid, though. Or Dortmund.

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                #8
                Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                Dortmund? Easy. Just score more than them.

                Otherwise, getting the excuses in early is top work. I approve.

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                  #9
                  Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                  Looks like we're playing home and away fixtures against the other clubs in the division in a randomly generated order again.

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                    #10
                    Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                    THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK.

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                      Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                      N est ŕ? wrote: Looks like we're playing home and away fixtures against the other clubs in the division in a randomly generated order again.
                      Not exactly. If the fixture list was random then somewhere, sometime there would be a club handed a long sequence of home games, or away ones. And there wouldn't generally be roughly half-season gaps between the first meeting of two sides and the return. The fixture list is a highly structured item, with only the slightest dash of randomness mixed in.

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                        Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                        David Moyes objected when the fixture computer dealt him a fairly bad hand for his first five games of 2013-14. For this, he was derided as a whinging dickhead.

                        But the fixtures are fixed to some degree. The existence of Super Sunday alone proves this.

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                          #13
                          Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                          It wasn't just that that made people think The Moyesiah was a whinging dickhead, TBF.

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                            #14
                            Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                            When it comes to whingeing, David Moyes is a veritable Jehovah's Witness compared to most of the people who work in his sphere.

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                              Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                              Borracho wrote: But the fixtures are fixed to some degree. The existence of Super Sunday alone proves this.
                              Super Sundays could happen by chance given the large amount of constraints on fixture list, so I feel that stretches 'prove' beyond its limit.
                              But I don't believe the Premier League, when confronted, has ever denied the accusation. They deflect instead. So Super Sundays are strong evidence that there is a certain amount of fixing going on.

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                                #16
                                Another easy start for Klopp - PL fixtures

                                Liverpool vs Burnley officially switched around. Other change blatantly stolen from the Guardian.

                                New fixture changes (times BST unless stated)
                                Saturday 13 August
                                12.30pm Hull City v Leicester City (Sky Sports)
                                5.30pm Manchester City v Sunderland (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 14 August
                                1.30pm Bournemouth v Manchester United (Sky Sports)
                                4pm Arsenal v Liverpool (Sky Sports)

                                Monday 15 August
                                8pm Chelsea v West Ham United (Sky Sports)

                                Friday 19 August
                                8pm Manchester United v Southampton (Sky Sports)

                                Saturday 20 August
                                12.30pm Stoke City v Manchester City (Sky Sports)
                                3pm Burnley v Liverpool (Was scheduled for 11 March 2017 but the matches between Liverpool and Burnley have been reversed following an agreement between the two clubs. Liverpool v Burnley will take place on Sunday 12 March 2017.)
                                5.30pm Leicester City v Arsenal (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 21 August
                                1.30pm Sunderland v Middlesbrough (Sky Sports)
                                4pm West Ham United v Bournemouth (Sky Sports)

                                Saturday 27 August
                                12.30pm Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool (Sky Sports)
                                5.30pm Hull City v Manchester United (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 28 August
                                1.30pm West Bromwich Albion v Middlesbrough (Sky Sports)
                                4pm Manchester City v West Ham United (Sky Sports)

                                Saturday 10 September
                                12.30pm Manchester United v Manchester City (Sky Sports)
                                5.30pm Liverpool v Leicester City (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 11 September
                                4pm Swansea City v Chelsea (Sky Sports)

                                Monday 12 September
                                8pm Sunderland v Everton (Sky Sports)

                                Friday 16 September
                                8pm Chelsea v Liverpool (Sky Sports)

                                Saturday 17 September
                                5.30pm Everton v Middlesbrough (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 18 September
                                12pm Watford v Manchester United (BT Sport)
                                2.15pm Crystal Palace v Stoke City (Sky Sports)
                                2.15pm Southampton v Swansea City (Southampton’s participation in the Europa League the preceding Thursday)
                                4.30pm Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland (Sky Sports)

                                Saturday 24 September
                                12.30pm Manchester United v Leicester City (Sky Sports)
                                5.30pm Arsenal v Chelsea (BT Sport)

                                Sunday 25 September
                                4pm West Ham United v Southampton (Sky Sports)

                                Monday 26 September
                                8pm Burnley v Watford (Sky Sports)

                                Further fixture changes
                                Manchester United and Southampton are guaranteed participation in the group stages of the Europa League on Thursdays, so their Premier League fixtures planned for Saturdays in October, November and December are subject to change.

                                Saturday 1 October
                                Leicester City v Southampton
                                Manchester United v Stoke City

                                Saturday 22 October
                                Chelsea v Manchester United
                                Manchester City v Southampton

                                Saturday 5 November
                                Hull City v Southampton
                                Swansea City v Manchester United

                                Saturday 26 November
                                Manchester United v West Ham United
                                Southampton v Everton

                                Other new dates
                                Sunday 11 December - times TBC
                                Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
                                Southampton v Middlesbrough

                                Wednesday 14 December
                                7.45pm GMT Middlesbrough v Liverpool (Due to Middlesbrough v Southampton moving to 11 December)
                                8pm GMT Crystal Palace v Manchester United (Due to Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur moving to 11 December)

                                Wednesday 1 February
                                8pm GMT Manchester United v Hull City

                                Sunday 12 March
                                4pm GMT Liverpool v Burnley (Confirmation of fixture reversal)

                                Sunday 16 April
                                4pm GMT West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool (Club agreement)

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