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    Closer Each Day, Home and Away: A-Leagues Season 2022-23

    With the NRL and AFL Grand Finals now out of the way, the A-League now apologetically starts marketing itself in Australia with the A-League Men's (ALM) competition kicking off this Friday.

    Whilst the promotional side of things has got slightly better since the APL took control, the deep-rooted inferiority complex of the domestic game continues so there's little chance of attracting new followers; the majority of Aussies will be blissfully unaware of the big kick off and are far more interested in the AFL drafts. In fact, up until Saturday (more on that to come) the most screen time the A-League's had recently was when that young lad, wearing a Melbourne City hoodie, shouted abuse at Prince Andrew during the royal procession in Edinburgh last month.

    Australia Cup
    And whilst I was preparing this new thread, last season's thread was resurrected after Saturday's Australia Cup Final between Macarthur FC and Sydney Utd 58 FC made headlines around the world for all the wrong reasons. Having the domestic cup final played as a curtain raiser to the new season has certainly given it a new lease of life (it used to be hidden away on a midweek timeslot and only available to watch on Foxtel), the earlier rounds were packed full of excitement with three A-League clubs getting dumped on their arses by NPL clubs. A-League Champions Western Utd were the first to go (losing on penalties to Sydney Utd), then went Sydney FC (losing to Oakleigh Cannons). Brisbane Roar would have fancied their chances in the semi-finals at Sydney Utd, but having led 2-1, they too spectacularly imploded and lost 3-2.

    So on to Saturday and the fairytale story of Sydney Utd 58 FC - the first non A-League side to make it to the national cup final, as they took on Macarthur FC. The narrative had been set and nothing was going to sway the host broadcaster, Channel 10, from saying anything different. But like all fairytales, there's a dark underside.

    I'm not going to pretend that I know much about the various NPL clubs across the country, but watching the Sydney Utd - Brisbane Roar semi-final, you could easily see along the far side touchline, the throng of black-shirted Sydney Utd fans. Looking every bit as menacing and intimidating as those thugs behind the goal at the Hungarian national games, when Sydney Utd scored to level it at 2-2, the players gravitated to this area. It's clear these guys are part of the club's fanbase and not just some bunch of Johnny-come-latelies.

    So with the majority of the 16,000 crowd at Saturday's final being Sydney Utd fans, it depressingly came as no surprise when the booing started for the Welcome to Country and the subsequent nazi salutes that have done the rounds on social media. Of course, Channel 10 didn't acknowledge any of this and continued with their narrative of how great the atmosphere was and how great it is that it was the second-best attended cup final. Not even the camera panning in on Football Australia chief, James Johnson, shaking his head and looking utterly exasperated was commented on.

    As Ursus noted yesterday in last season's thread, these actions are nothing new. I remember Perth Glory striker Bobby Despotovski getting attacked after the game by Melbourne Knights fans in 2001, and it's kicked off at the Australian Open a few times between Croats & Serbs. You can guarantee they'll mostly be teenagers or in their early twenties and never been to Croatia or Serbia in their life.

    As for the game itself, two penalties was enough to give Macarthur a 2-0 win and their first silverware after only being in existence for 2 years. New coach, Dwight Yorke, should quit now as it's never going to get any better than this.

    Women's World Cup 2023
    Enough of the negativity. It's a huge year for Australian football with the Women's World Cup now only 9 months away. The A-League Women's (ALW) competition now expands from 10 to 11 teams with the introduction of Western Utd and the season commences on November 18. It's not yet a full home and away season; that milestone happens next season when Central Coast Mariners return. About bloody time!

    The World Cup has also seen many of the venues get a makeover as well as new training facilities getting built. Let's hope we don't squander it.

    ALM Season
    It's the new franchises who are scooping up the silverware. Western Utd won last season's Championship in only their third season in existence (but still haven't built their own stadium, despite the promises), and mentioned above, Macarthur are the new cup holders. So who are the favourites this year? Whilst Western Utd shocked us all last season, it's hard to see Melbourne City or Melbourne Victory not secure it this year. They have the biggest resources and settled squads.

    With so little coverage over the close season, it's hard to know how all the teams are doing. Sydney FC fans are still raging that their best player for the past 7 seasons, Milos Ninkovic, has buggered off across the city to Western Sydney Wanderers. And their misery was further compounded when Jack Rodwell moved in the opposite direction. Charlie Austin has signed for Brisbane Roar, whilst Jason Cummings (aka The Cumdog), has been given a new lease of life at Central Coast Mariners and could even be going to the World Cup with the Socceroos. But it's such a shame to see another new Socceroo, Garang Kuol, leave for Newcastle Utd. Hopefully we'll still get to see a bit of him before the transfer window opens in January and he doesn't fall off the radar like his older brother, Alou Kuol, who moved to Stuttgart last year and hasn't really been heard of since.

    So who will the dysfunctional clubs be? Perth Glory won their first ever wooden spoon last season, and just when they thought things couldn't get any worse after two covid-affected seasons, they discovered that their ground, HBF Park, won't be ready in time due to delays in getting it upgraded for the Women's World Cup. After a lot of negotiations where at one point it looked like they might be spending the majority of the season on the road (again!), they'll now play 10 of their 13 home games at NPL side Stirling Macedonia. As the State Government runs HBF Park, they've managed negotiate a fee with them to relocate and get temporary stands erected and floodlighting fixed at Macedonia Park to A-League standard. On the pitch, with the squad thankfully revamped from last season, who knows how they'll do this time, but they are the bookies favourite to finish bottom again.

    Brisbane Roar may give the Glory a run for their money, with the playing side looking thin despite Charlie Austin up front. They're also involved in a dispute with player Corey Brown, who they've sacked, and the fans also deteste the Indonesian owners, the Bakrie Group, for their shambolic running of the club over the years.

    #2
    Ok, I know it's poor etiquette to bump up your own thread, but I've had a quick sift through Big Daves Gussett thread https://www.onetouchfootball.com/for...23#post2672851 and there's rarely/never any reference to his A-League strips.

    So here's last week's https://www.theguardian.com/football...inally-returns Enjoy!

    Week 1 now out of the way and already we've had a swearing commentator (allegedly):

    https://twitter.com/Barcajim3/status/1578335531121135616?cxt=HHwWgMDSzbPzr-crAAAA

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      #3
      With the A-League Men's season now on hold for the World Cup, this weekend sees the A-League Women (ALW) take centre stage as the season finally gets underway.

      Channel 10/Paramount+ and the APL have taken the decision not to show any women's matches on free-to-air TV, instead opting to stream them all for free on Channel 10s streaming platform, 10Play, as well as on subscription service Paramount+. With the Women's World Cup only a few months away, it does seem a strange decision to hide the ALW on a streaming platform only, especially given the huge free-to-air coverage Channel 7 has allocated to rival code, the AFLW.

      The first 3 places should be sown up between champions Melbourne Victory, who only scraped into last season's Finals on goal difference, Sydney FC, runners-up the past 3 years, and 4-time winners Melbourne City. Adelaide Utd and Perth Glory could be battling it out for that last Finals spot, based on last season's performances. The Glory only played one game at home last season due to Covid restrictions, so regular home advantage could see them secure that coveted 4th spot.

      But the wildcard this season is newcomers Western Utd. Two good loan players in the shape of Matilda Chloe Logarzo and American Jessica McDonald, the rest of squad is well known to each other with 11 players hailing from local club Calder Utd.

      As for the rest, who can improve on last season's dreadful performances? Brisbane Roar, Canberra Utd, Newcastle Jets, Wellington Phoenix and Western Sydney Wanderers were all very poor.

      I'm really looking forward to this season's ALW and with a home World Cup on the horizon, hopefully there'll be a surprise break out (like Garang Kuol in the Men's game) to stake a claim in the Matildas squad.

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        #4
        Well that didn't take long. With football riding on the crest of a wave after the Socceroos' terrific performance at the World Cup, Australian football's innate ability to shit the bed continues with the APL taking the cash from the NSW government and moving both the mens and womens Grand Finals to Sydney for the next 3 years.

        The fallout has been swift and brutal. Craig Goodwin and Remy Siemsen, players who appeared in the APL's promotion video, have completely distanced themselves from it; Melbourne Victory's representatives on the APL board have now resigned and other clubs who are not represented on the board say they were never consulted. It's the Melbourne derby this Saturday and a huge walkout from both sets of supporters is planned, whilst fans of all other clubs will be planning similar protests. Even the APL's own website, KeepUp, thinks it's a really shit idea.

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          #5
          And just when we thought this week couldn't get any worse, Melbourne Victory's thugs have completely brought the A-League and football in Australia to its knees.

          It seemed all so simple - fans of all clubs would stage a protest at the 20th minute at all the games this weekend. Up until the Melbourne derby, all protests were peaceful. For once, it appeared the Victory and City ultras were in agreement. It was live on Channel 10 and it would be the most visual protest so far as fans vent their anger at the APL's Grand Final decision.

          But no, that was never intention of the Victory thugs. So this is what we got instead:

          https://twitter.com/neilsherwin/status/1604041330023596032?cxt=HHwWgIDQkerF2cIsAAAA

          The match got abandoned and this latest shameful incident might just be the last straw for the A-League, which is already massively in debt. Two weeks ago fans were gathering in their thousands and packing out city centre squares in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Adelaide & Brisbane in the middle of the night to watch the Socceroos. How the hell did we get to this so quickly?

          Different angles here:

          https://twitter.com/hashtag/MelbDerby?src=hashtag_click
          Last edited by CY_Boaby; 17-12-2022, 13:48.

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            #6
            There’s footage of the GK at the other end of the pitch quietly going around picking up a bunch of flares and dropping them behind the goal and then there’s footage of this other prick throwing two into the crowd. If one of them had hit me I’d have been over the fence and after him a lot quicker than those who eventually did.
            No flares had hit him and he starts throwing them back into a crowd. Did he see who threw them? Is he so sure of his flare flinging accuracy that he knows he’s gonna hit them and them only? There was only the ref near him, presumably the ref walked from the halfway line to at the very least yellow card him for throwing flares into the crowd?
            This idiot GK is not without blame here. He needs to take a long hard look at the actions of the lad in the other goal.

            Ban every flare flinger for ten years caught on camera no matter which direction they were throwing them. Ban every pitch invader for life who wasn’t hit by a flare. Anyone hit by a flare should get free tickets for the rest of the season even if they did come on the pitch. If the bloke who threw a bucket of flares in the GKs face was hit by a GK thrown flare then that’s basically justice for you. Sorted.
            Last edited by Sunderporinostesta; 17-12-2022, 17:23.

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              #7
              That's crazy. What punishment will Melbourne Victory receive because of this?

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                #8
                Punishments are finally getting handed out. So far there's been around 30 arrests and no doubt more will come. Lifetime bans have been handed out to some, but whether the APL and the police can actually enforce it is another story. The Victory ultras, known as Original Style Melbourne (OSM), have a history of shit behaviour including throwing a glass bottle at a women's game 2 years ago, and earlier this year targeting Adelaide's Josh Cavallo with homophobic abuse.

                As for sanctions against Melbourne Victory (and Melbourne City), well it's all got a bit confusing. Victory's next game is on Boxing Day against Western Utd at the same venue, but as they're the away team then no away fans will be allowed in. The OSM allocated section for home games will be closed and no Victory fans will be allowed into any away games for the foreseeable future. But Football Australia have also banned away fans from attending Victory's home games, which has just confused a lot of folk, with the travelling fans who'd already booked their flights/tickets etc feeling they're being unfairly punished.

                So far no action has been taken against Melbourne City's goalkeeper, Tom Glover, for throwing the flare back at the OSM thugs however that may well be reviewed.

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                  #9
                  Big Daves Gussett take on the latest shenanigans in Australian football.

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                    #10
                    Last week the A-League Women's regular season concluded, and once again Sydney FC are crowned Premiers for the third successive season. But they were made to work for it by debutants, Western Utd, who had a terrific season and ended up just 1 point behind.

                    Melbourne City finished third, but were way off the pace 10 points behind Sydney, whilst once again Melbourne Victory sealed that 4th and final Finals place on goal difference, just like they did last season, meaning Canberra agonisingly missed out. Canberra went 3-1 down at Melbourne City in the final game, clawed it back to 3-3 but just ran out of steam (and time) at the end. Perth Glory finished 6th just a point behind to strengthen the argument that Finals should be increased to 6 teams, just like the Men's league did when they had the same number of teams.

                    Wellington Phoenix finished bottom but were much improved from last season and shocked everyone when they won 1-0 at Sydney. Meanwhile Newcastle Jets had another poor season and were on the end of a few hidings, whilst Brisbane Roar, Adelaide Utd and Western Sydney all had very disappointing campaigns.

                    So it's Melbourne City v Melbourne Victory in the first semi-final. Victory are the current Champions having beaten Sydney in the last 2 Grand Finals, and even though Victory have been poor this season, they were poor last season too but still ended up with the trophy. The winner of this game will play the loser of the Sydney-Western Utd game, with the winner of that game progressing straight to the Grand Final.

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                      #11
                      The ALW Finals over the weekend didn't disappoint.

                      First up was the Elimination Final between Melbourne City & Melbourne Victory. And once again it's Victory who progress after a terrific 3-3 draw and a penalty shoot-out win in which Victory 'keeper, Casey Dumont, slotted home Victory's first penalty and then just coolly walked to the goal to take her place and subsequently saved City's first penalty. She made it look so effortlessly simple and Victory's knack of being able to turn it on when it comes to Finals football continues.

                      In the Semi-Final, Sydney hilariously once again came unstuck when they lost 1-0 at home to Western Utd. And much to everyone's delight, the result heaps further embarrassment and scorn on the APL and their appalling decision to hold the Grand Final in Sydney for the next 3 years. What should have been Western Utd's home Grand Final in their inaugural season, what they now get is to be in the 'Home' dressing room in Sydney.

                      So Western Utd await the winner of the Preliminary Final between Sydney and Melbourne Victory. And we're all hoping Sydney lose so we can have a Grand Final hosted in Sydney with no Sydney teams playing.

                      Meanwhile in the Men's league, moneybags Melbourne City were crowned Premiers for the third successive season. They were ran close by an young, free-scoring and exciting Adelaide Utd, but their loss to Western Utd yesterday sealed the title for City. After last season's shock loss to Western Utd it would be a surprise if City were to mess up the Finals again.

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                        #12
                        Congratulations to Sydney FC who triumphed 4-0 in the Women's Grand Final on Sunday against Western Utd.

                        Having put their Melbourne Victory hoodoo to bed with a last minute winner the previous weekend, this game was a lot easier due to Western Utd's inability to defend corner kicks. The opening 2 goals were virtually identical - ball floated to the back post and nodded home whilst the 'keeper flapped and the defenders watched. There was a lot of chatter before the game about whether fans should boycott over the APL's decision to move all Grand Finals to Sydney and the fact that Western Utd had earned the right to host it, but a lot of free tickets were given away which swelled the record crowd to over 9,500 and the developing women's game doesn't need another reason for fans to stay away.

                        It's an altogether different story for the Men's game. The top 6 has been sorted and this weekend we have two Elimination Finals:
                        • Adelaide Utd v Wellington Phoenix (Friday)
                        • Western Sydney Wanderers v Sydney FC (Saturday)
                        What should be a mouth-watering Sydney derby with a cracking atmosphere, the active support for Sydney FC has announced they will boycott the Finals due to the APL's shit Grand Final decision and continuing lack of fan engagement. So behind one of the goals will be a sea of empty seats and little in the way of chanting from the away side. And in keeping with the fractious and petty tensions between rival fans and their inability to never unite in the face of adversity, Western Sydney's active support won't boycott and so the pile-on begins with everyone calling them scabs.

                        Meanwhile, the APL's Grand Final Festival of Football, which was trumpeted as another great reason to relocate to Sydney, has suffered a huge blow with the new NSW Government refusing to subsidise Bayern Munich's multi-million dollar appearance fee against an A-League All-Stars team. Can this season get any more farcical?

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                          #13
                          Mate, it's the A-League, of course it can.

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                            #14
                            Adelaide beat Wellington 2-0 on Friday evening and Sydney upset the form book with an impressive 2-1 win over WSW in another spiteful derby. WSW were 1-0 up at half-time but came out in the second half and decided to sit back and defend, and it was a tactic that completely backfired as Sydney overran them and deservedly went through to the next round.

                            So Sydney will play Melbourne City whilst Adelaide take on Central Coast Mariners in the two-legged Semi Finals.

                            And I've no sympathy for any Wanderers fans who shelled out $55 for this. For some strange reason it's no longer available for sale on their official club website, but I'm sure there'll be loads of them in the bargain bin come Monday morning.

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                              #15
                              It's the A-League Men's Grand Final is a few hours time, not that many folk in Australia know, or indeed care.

                              As Big Daves Gussett so eloquently put it, it's a tough one for the neutral to choose between Melbourne City and Central Coast Mariners. It's the first of supposedly three Grand Finals to be played in Sydney after the controversial deal struck by the APL and NSW Government, and the promised "Festival of Football" in the week leading up to the Grand Final to promote the game to the masses has been virtually non-existent; I think there was some 5-a-side game between former players, but since it was witnessed by no one it's hard to say if it actually happened.

                              In the Semi-Finals a couple of weeks ago, Melbourne City disposed of Sydney 5-1 on aggregate, whilst the Mariners won both legs against Adelaide to easily progress 4-1 on aggregate. In the previous round, Sydney's active support (a bunch of self-aggrandizing twats who go by the name The Cove) had boycotted the Finals due to the Grand Final deal; a move which brought begrudging admiration from many opposition fans, especially as the deal benefitted them. But they reverted back to type once they beat WSW and announced the boycott was off, all because the APL promised them a 30-second Zoom call every 6 months or so. To the relief of everyone, Sydney got thumped as it would have been horrible had that mob made it to Grand Final and helped justify the APL deal.

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                                #16
                                Cometh the hour, cometh the Cumdog!! A Jason Cummings hat-trick, which included two well-taken penalties, sees the Central Coast Mariners stun Melbourne City as they walloped them 6-1.

                                An incredible achievement from a club that were picking up their third consecutive wooden spoon only 3 years ago. As for the Cumdog, what a way to finish his A-League career as he unfortunately departs the A-League for the Indian Super League.

                                For Melbourne City, a team that has dominated the A-League and seen them crowned Premiers the past three seasons, that's now three losses in the last four Grand Finals. Given the huge resources at their disposal, until they can halt that dreadful record they'll never be considered a true great of the A-League-era.

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                                  #17
                                  How did Nectarios Triantis perform? We’ve (Sunderland) been linked with him these last few days and our head of recruitment has been over there for a week or so. I’ll be the first to say I’ve never heard of the lad.
                                  I saw the Mariners about seven years back against the Sydney team that played in the big stadium off Oxford Rd/St just past Kings Cross when heading away from the centre of Sydney. Mariners were awful. As bad a team as I’ve ever seen. They had an ex Sunderland “player” that Keane signed from Cork called Roy ODonovan upfront. That signing was when the doubts about Keane started amongst my match going mates. Never a pro in a million years.

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                                    #18
                                    Triantis had a good game, but then so did all the Mariners players. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about him, but here's some more info on him.

                                    As for Roy O'Donovan, I've sure I've posted this clip before, but here he is getting sent off for Newcastle Jets in the 2018 Grand Final against Melbourne Victory after trying to remove Lawrence Thomas's face. He got a 10-game ban for that assault. Looks like he did learn something from his time being coached by Roy Keane.

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