Moyes Don't Cry - English Premier League 2022/23

[hobbes]

No,, you don't understand.

If not for the cabal,.Arsenal would be the Bayern of England.

They play in red and one one much likes them. They're most of the way there already.

[Nesta]

More importantly, what's a PGMOL

[DCI Harry Batt]

Isn't it the refs' gang?

[hobbes]

More importantly, what's a PG MOL

[DCI Harry Batt]

Oh very good.

[Jah Womble]

More importantly, what's a PGMOL

'Pissy Gooners manifesting obvious limitations', in this instance.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

I tend to favour the cock-up theory rather than conspiracy here. In other words, incompetence. Of which there was shed loads on display in the Chelsea-Spurs fixture.

I also think the sport is desperately in need of a retrospective sanction process in order to discourage what Jah described as "shithousery", but could be more clearly described as filthy cynical violence. And without all the stupid exceptions ("you can't be retrospectively penalised if X happened", where X is some kind of contemporary review). Because if utter c*nts like Romero who are happy to pull a defender violently to the ground by his hair are likely to get a retrospective multi-match ban from post-match video review then it might stop the scum doing that kind of scumming.

[1974ddr]

Perhaps they need to bring in some sort of video assistant referee...?

[DCI Harry Batt]

Lots of people seem not to have noticed that it's Chelsea. So, you know.

[Jah Womble]

I tend to favour the cock-up theory rather than conspiracy here. In other words, incompetence. Of which there was shed loads on display in the Chelsea-Spurs fixture.

I also think the sport is desperately in need of a retrospective sanction process in order to discourage what Jah described as "shithousery", but could be more clearly described as filthy cynical violence. And without all the stupid exceptions ("you can't be retrospectively penalised if X happened", where X is some kind of contemporary review). Because if utter c*nts like Romero who are happy to pull a defender violently to the ground by his hair are likely to get a retrospective multi-match ban from post-match video review then it might stop the scum doing that kind of scumming.

The comment was more geared to the kind of snarkiness that we haven't seen enough at Tottenham - ie, players prepared to mix it up to get a reaction. (I don't particularly like it myself, but this clearly is how the better teams seem to gain advantage at the sharp end.)

I don't consider what Romero did as 'sh*thousery' - it was violent conduct. And it should indeed be examined in any reviews of the law/s -as should simulation and the treatment of officials.

But let's not pretend that it's a 'new' thing.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

For the record, I'm not arguing either that it's a new thing, or that it is anywhere close to being unique to Spurs. No doubt our views will differ on the relative extent to which such behaviour occurs amongst footballers in different clubs, but I can see that wouldn't be a particularly fruitful or uplifting debate.

[Eggchaser]

Perhaps they need to bring in some sort of video assistant referee...?

Although it's a different game in the flow of play, the introduction in rugby of the ability of the TMO to watch the game both in real time and on recording, thus allowing them to alert the ref to foul play at any time, even during ball in play, has been great. Knowing that the ref can go back and look at anything a camera has picked up and punish accordingly has meant the game's gone soft, or to put it another way, the violent headcases sneakily shithousing their way from one elbow in the ruck to another gouge or kneedrop have been pretty much eliminated. You still get idiots blowing a fuse and taking a swing, but by and large the old school violence has gone.

French domestic rugby is, of course, another matter.

[EIM]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1559691922725281800?t=iDDzOSZ5SCuFEYKJ6NJHZg&s=19

Never check Twitter just before bed.

[Sean of the Shed]

It's a marriage made in heaven.

[Patrick Thistle]

It was a joke apparently. He's an attention seeking manchild.

[Jah Womble]

For the record, I'm not arguing either that it's a new thing, or that it is anywhere close to being unique to Spurs. No doubt our views will differ on the relative extent to which such behaviour occurs amongst footballers in different clubs, but I can see that wouldn't be a particularly fruitful or uplifting debate.

Well, it'd be hard to find any real 'truth' there perhaps.

However, you seemed to have some misunderstanding over what I consider 'sh*thousery', so I thought I should clarify.

[EIM]

It was a joke apparently. He's an attention seeking manchild.

Course it was. But rumours abound that a sale is imminent.

[EIM]

https://twitter.com/UtdPlug/status/1559882432886849541?t=UkQ-6za_DcqBvYqRsSZyvA&s=19

Nothing gets the blood going like a good consortium.

[Toby Gymshorts]

Hang on. Man Utd is worth less than Twitter?

Maybe Elon wasn't joking after all.

[caja-dglh]

Someone needs to make a Homer in Chelsea shirt GIF backing into the hedge and reemerging in a Manchester United shirt. For all the bidders who missed out on their love of Chelsea.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

I bet the Glazers would sell Man Utd for 6 gigadollars, if anyone were stupid enough to pay that much.

[Tony C]

https://twitter.com/UtdPlug/status/1559882432886849541?t=UkQ-6za_DcqBvYqRsSZyvA&s=19

Nothing gets the blood going like a good consortium.

They’re circling too. United have lost two games and already they are the rotting corpse in a vulture metaphor.

[hobbes]

Man, FSG must be laughing their sphincters out. What did they pay for Liverpool after Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber had finished shitting the bed? £300million? One twelfth of a Chelsea or - according to the above - one twentieth of a Man Utd.

[caja-dglh]

The Chelsea sale price certainly set a "time to sell" alarm for anyone not in it for the long haul.

[Kevin S]

Or in 2010 you could have bought 150 Leicester City FCs for that. (Same as Ipswich in 2021, interestingly.)

Or indeed 30 Manchester City FCs...