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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Thanks jefe Morris has come on twice in a very similar role to what you described, we play 5-3-2 or 5-2-3 with the wing backs really more in midfield. He's looked decent and should have won us a penalty but the referee took pity on Norwich. Arriola is indeed being touted as a wing back to provide cover for Connor Roberts, he'll get much less game time.

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  • jefe
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post

    Jordan Morris is a weird one, apparently there's no loan fee involved and we're paying part of his wages. Arriola was on and then definitely off yesterday before it was finally confirmed. I'm presuming our DC United connections got us this one.

    So are they any good? Would be nice to get an OTFer's view.
    Morris is a bit of a story. He got his first caps under Jurgen K., while still an amateur, playing college ball for Stanford, after Stanford scrimmaged the national team and Jurgen fell in love. He's spent a few seasons with Seattle as a pro after leaving college, turning down a contract from Bremen after a trial after leaving school in favor of the Sounders-he's a Seattle area local and his father is the Sounders chief doctor. He's a reasonably decent player; Seattle if I am recalling correctly liked to play him top right in a 4-3-3 and have him run at people. I suspect he's going to be wither your second striker or first attacking sub. He scored 35 in 105 for Seattle, 10 in 39 for the US.

    Arriola's a Californian, from the same youth soccer club that produced Carlos Bocanegra. He's an attacking midfielder, to me at least, but the consensus here is that Swansea wants him to be a wingback. Before DC bought him, he had 4 seasons with Xolos de Tijuana in Liga MX. He'll also be fresh-he missed all but the last game of 2020 after tearing an ACL in preseason. I think he'd do better the closer to goal he plays, but he's never really had to defend that much, so I'm not sure how being an attaching wingback would work out. Please don't break him.

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  • G-Man
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    Liverpool got another CD, Ozan Kabak, on loan from Schalke. He's a decent enough player who one day will be do a good job for West Ham. But Klopp getting him and Davies doesn't suggest that we'll see much of van Dijk and/or Gomez this season.

    Schalke are the lucky winners of a used Mustafi.

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  • JM Footzee
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    Another of my fascinating lists - players who were loaned out from Premier League clubs this season, came back and didn't make it out again prior to the closure of the window. This is slightly dependent on Wikipedia editors editing loan sections in the season articles to acknowledge curtailed loans, but so it goes.

    Arsenal: Zak Swanson (MVV Maastricht), Trae Coyle (Gillingham), Dejan Iliev (Shrewsbury), Tolaji Bola (Rochdale)
    Brighton: Percy Tau (Anderlecht), Tom McGill (Crawley), Michal Karbownik (Legia Warsaw), Jakub Moder (Lech Poznan)
    Chelsea: Teddy Sharman-Lowe (Burton), George McEachran (Maastricht)
    Fulham: Martell Taylor-Crossdale (Colchester), Jerome Opoku (Plymouth)
    Leicester: Mitch Clark (Port Vale), Sam Hughes (Burton)
    Liverpool: Ben Woodburn (Blackpool)
    Manchester City: Yeboah Amankwah (Rochdale)
    Manchester United: Matej Kovar (Swindon)
    Newcastle: Jake Turner (Morecambe), Thomas Allan (Accrington)
    Sheffield United: Marcus Dewhurst (Carlisle)
    West Brom: Jamie Soule (Lincoln)
    Wolves: Morgan Gibbs-White (Swansea), Renat Dadashov (Grasshopper), Austin Samuels (Bradford)

    n.b. National League and lower loans not included for sake of speed again.

    EDIT (17.2.21): Dylan Levitt (Charlton) removed from Manchester United after he was loaned to Croatian side Istra on 15 February. At Wolves, swapped out Ruben Vinagre (Olympiakos) for Dadashov - latter's return with a season-ending injury hadn't been added to Wikipedia at this point and missed former's loan to Famalicao.
    Last edited by JM Footzee; 17-02-2021, 00:44.

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  • BallochSonsFan
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55905232

    Marseille signed Olivier Ntcham from Celtic last night. Deal was a loan until the summer, with a ?4.5million fee to make the deal permanent.

    AVB didnt want the player and has this morning offered his resignation to the Marseille board in protest.

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  • EIM
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    Marcus Rojo signs for Boca Juniors. A sad day for me. Rojo was my favourite of all our perma-injured shit defenders. Every time he played, something happened. That might have been a knee high challenge, a rabona clearance, a shot from 40 yards that went nowhere near the goal. It was never dull.

    He was In the away end against City in the league Cup semi final last season. A couple of years before, he got stuck into them after the final whistle, leading to the papers to describe him as bare-chested and marauding. We should have a statue of him, shirt off, fists clenched, eyes bulging, in the away dressing room.

    I hope he does well at Boca. Good luck to all River Plate forwards should he ever play against them.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    He certainly played centrally but had opportunities to get forward in The Dons' 3-5-2. His one goal was a cracker though :



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  • RobW
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    Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
    Sanders was impressive on loan at Wimbledon last season, though should score more goals.
    Reading about him it seemed to me that he has been employed more of a holding midfielder, rather than someone likely to get in the box. Anyway, have plenty competition now for central midfield.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Sanders was impressive on loan at Wimbledon last season, though should score more goals.

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  • RobW
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    Originally posted by RobW View Post
    Imps have signed Cohen Bramall from Colchester United for an undisclosed fee, and let Max Melbourne leave on loan to Walsall. Be interesting what happens at left back because Tayo Edun has grown into that left back slot and made it his own (there were 3 players vying for the position at start of season). Not sure what's happened with Sean Roughan. He did start a few games at left back, and played centre half in one of the Pizza Trophy games, but not seen him in the squad for weeks and thought he'd be offered on loan somewhere. Guess he's playing for the u-18s?

    Might be one more signing. Always seem that City leave it late to announce these.
    Max Sanders signed just before the window slammed shut (sorry, 'closed'). 22 year old midfielder from Brighton, signed permanently. Appleton did say that he was looking to get players in permanently and not rely on loans so much, and that has been the case with these most recent signings. All in all, a pretty good window. Jorge Grant signing a new deal (now practice penalties please), Morgan Rogers joining on loan from Man City, Brennan Johnson staying with us and three permanent signings. We still need a fit centre forward as back up for Tom Hopper, but I assume that Callum Morton is nearing fitness and will provide that.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    AFAIK it's always been a negotiation between the clubs, and it depends on the motive for the loan - are you loaning out the player to reduce wages, to get that player some meaningful match practice, or with a view to a permanent deal?

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  • Sporting
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    This thing of the loaner club paying loanees' wages: has it always happened?

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by jefe View Post
    In addition to Seattle's Jordan Morris earlier, Swansea loan in Paul Arriola from DC United, option to buy still being negotiated.

    Barnsley loan in Daryl Dike from Orlando City, with a purchase fee of $20M (don't laugh it's real) for 80% of his rights. If you believe in family pedigree, his older brother and sister are both former Nigerian internationals.
    Jordan Morris is a weird one, apparently there's no loan fee involved and we're paying part of his wages. Arriola was on and then definitely off yesterday before it was finally confirmed. I'm presuming our DC United connections got us this one.

    So are they any good? Would be nice to get an OTFer's view.

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  • The Awesome Berbaslug!!!
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    Henri Saivet, on JM's list at Newcastle, was a solid 50 goal a season merchant one of the championship managers. It didn't quite turn out that way.

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  • jwdd27
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    Along with Taft making his loan deal permanent (Taft sent a farewell message thanking Bolton fans for making him so welcome. He did not play a game in front of fans for them), Scunny have made yet another loan signing (isn't there a maximum for the season) in right back Teddy Howe from Blackpool reserves.
    No relation to Eddie, or Geoffrey, but happily he is Don Howe's great-nephew. His only league experience is at Reading, where coincidentally his father is a director.

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  • JM Footzee
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    Originally posted by JM Footzee View Post
    At the end of the transfer window in October I collated a list of players at current Premier League clubs who were loaned out in 2019-20 (plus a few 18-19 loanees still on their club's fringes) who hadn't got a loan this season.
    (Quote trimmed, see full post for key etc)

    And at the end of the window, a fair number have departed. Below I've deleted anyone who'd started league matches this season prior to my original post, bolded anyone who is still at the club and struck-through anyone who's left permanently. Everyone else has been loaned out again.

    Arsenal: William Saliba*~ (01^)
    Aston Villa: Lovre Kalinic~ (GK, 90^)
    Brighton: Florin Andone (93^), Jayson Molumby!~ (99v), Max Sanders! (99^), Christian Walton (GK, 95v)
    Burnley: Anthony Glennon! (99v)
    Chelsea: Charlie Brown (99v), Danny Drinkwater (90^), Charly Musonda (96v), Baba Rahman (94^), Dujon Sterling (99v)
    C Palace: Scott Banks* (01v), Nya Kirby!+ (00^), Connor Wickham (93^), Sam Woods! (98v)
    Everton: Beni Baningime+ (98v), Muhamed Besic (92v), Yannick Bolasie (89^), Josh Bowler (99^), Nathan Broadhead (98^), Jonas Lossl (GK 89^), Matthew Pennington~ (94v), Cenk Tosun! (91^), Joao Virginia (GK, 99v)
    Fulham: Fabri (GK 87v), Jean Michael Seri! (91^)
    Leeds: Ouasim Bouy+ (93^), Jay-Roy Grot (98^), Conor Shaughnessy (96^)
    Leicester: Admiral Muskwe~ (98^), Layton Ndukwu (98v), Islam Slimani! (88^)
    Liverpool: Liam Millar~ (99v)
    Man City: Claudio Gomes (00^), Philippe Sandler (97^), Collins Tanor+ (98^)
    Man Utd: Marcos Rojo (90^)
    Newcastle: Rolando Aarons (95v), Achraf Lazaar (92^), Henri Saivet+ (90v)
    Southampton: Sam McQueen+ (95^), Kayne Ramsay (00v), Callum Slattery (99^)
    Tottenham: Jack Clarke (00v), Anthony Georgiou (97^), George Marsh (98v), Danny Rose (90^)
    West Brom: Sam Field! (98^)
    West Ham: Oladapo Afolayan (97v), Aji Alese! (01^), Conor Coventry! (00^), Nathan Holland (98^), Nathan Trott (GK, 98v)
    Wolves: Sadou Diallo (99^), Luke Matheson* (02v), Roderick (91^)

    n.b. Jon-Joe Kenny (Everton) and Aboubakar Kamara (Fulham), who have started league games this season and were on the original list, also went out on loan today. Andone (Brighton) and Musonda (Chelsea) are currently injured, there may be others.

    Meanwhile Not The Top Twenty podcast reckon Watford are the only EFL club without a loanee in their squad, while 12 of the 72 have more loanees than it's permissible to name in a matchday squad.

    EDIT 9.2.21: Rojo left United for Boca Juniors on 2 February, while Lazaar was released by Newcastle by mutual consent on 4 February. Of those remaining at their clubs, Charly Musonda (Chelsea), Nathan Broadhead (Everton), Ouasim Bouy (Leeds), Layton Ndukwu (Leicester), Collins Tanor (Manchester City), Henri Saivet (Newcastle), George Marsh and Danny Rose (both Tottenham) were too old for their side's under-21 list and didn't make their 25-man Premier League squad.
    Last edited by JM Footzee; 09-02-2021, 01:44.

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  • jefe
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    In addition to Seattle's Jordan Morris earlier, Swansea loan in Paul Arriola from DC United, option to buy still being negotiated.

    Barnsley loan in Daryl Dike from Orlando City, with a purchase fee of $20M (don't laugh it's real) for 80% of his rights. If you believe in family pedigree, his older brother and sister are both former Nigerian internationals.

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  • Amor de Cosmos
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    Just as the window closes gently (instead of being "slammed shut" as it usually is) QPR sign Sam Field from WBA. Loan with an option to buy at season's end. We definitely need a CM, could work for all parties.

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  • RobW
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    Imps have signed Cohen Bramall from Colchester United for an undisclosed fee, and let Max Melbourne leave on loan to Walsall. Be interesting what happens at left back because Tayo Edun has grown into that left back slot and made it his own (there were 3 players vying for the position at start of season). Not sure what's happened with Sean Roughan. He did start a few games at left back, and played centre half in one of the Pizza Trophy games, but not seen him in the squad for weeks and thought he'd be offered on loan somewhere. Guess he's playing for the u-18s?

    Might be one more signing. Always seem that City leave it late to announce these.

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  • delicatemoth
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    Originally posted by Simon G View Post
    Know nothing of the lad whatsoever.
    I hadn't heard of him till today, but I do now know he was captain of our U23s.

    Ex-Leicester youth George Taft has gone to Scunthorpe, the old dog.

    A good window for Leicester, who managed to offload Demarai Gray to Leverkusen for actual cash, then avoided pointlessly signing Maitland-Niles or Chalobah as was heavily rumoured. Some fans are exercised about not signing a striker, but good ones are hardly ever available in January.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Liverpool get Kabak on loan till the end of the season, and the weirdness of not using Minamino (did he refuse to take the special juice?) temporarily solved by loaning him to Southampton. So cover for defence finally, f-all again for up front.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    Jonny Williams (somehow still only 27) signs for Tan Utd until the end of the season when his Charlton contract would have elapsed.

    I'm happy from a Wales perspective that he's playing at a higher level but hope he gets games and Mick Mac doesn't break him (though they have history at Ipswich).

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  • Patrick Thistle
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    Originally posted by RobW View Post
    Lennell John-Lewis has rejoined Grimsby Town from Hereford https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/new...turns-to-town/ - maybe Hurst can coax Nathan Arnold away from managing Bourne Town next?
    His name is a shop
    His name is a sho-o-op
    Lennell John-Lewis
    His name is a shop

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  • Patrick Thistle
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    Originally posted by RobW View Post
    Lincoln have signed Regan Poole on a permanent deal from Franchise. Suppose he'll act as cover for TJ Eyoma at right back, but may very well be his replacement next season (assuming he goes back to Spurs), or play at centre back.
    OH FOR FUCK SAKE THAT MEANS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON LINCOLN RESULTS NOW IS IT. FUCKING HELL.

    No, seriously, he's a Grangetown boy. Hope he does well for you. Very glad he's not at franchise any more.

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  • beak
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    Sunderland have released Danny Graham, his goalscoring record across two spells there (1 in 51) a marginal improvement on that of Mart Poom (1 in 58).

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