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    https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/1316110451009376257

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      The guardian really is playing fast and loose with the truth on this.

      You'd think, from that, that there'd been some kind of decision made by EFL clubs, together, wouldn't you?

      An earlier version of the story said that 1ll 72 clubs had supported the plans - that was a lie, and they had to change it.

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        You don't think that Risdale and Moxey speak for all 72 clubs?

        Such a cynic

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          And the fucking lying shits in the body of that story say "With Championship and League One clubs unanimously agreeing to support the chair Rick Parry’s proposals" - not true.

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            Moxey is a liar, and Ridsdale is a crook. But two minutes of actually bothering to do some journalism would have avoided repeating the lie.

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              The way the piece is written, you wouldn't know it was "some bloke said this to a BBC journo so I've made up a story assuming it to be true", would you? Shoddy as all giddy-up.

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                Incredibly so, and one wonders what is driving the coverage over there

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                  It's not all been quite as terrible. But this, and David Conn, I dunno.

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                    I've pointed it out to the two writers and to guardian sport on twitter, and emailed the guardian sport desk. Dunno what else I can do. It's a lie though.

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                      They seem finally to have removed the blatant lies.

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                        Which lies were those? Cos they (or rather Guardian news) tweeted the story again this morning https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1316271022346301441

                        Really pleased with Clive Nates' response as a City fan. I'm sure under some of our previous Chairmen, the club would be backing this wholeheartedly. I suppose we are better off financially now then we were 10-15 years ago, but it's nice having a down to earth Chairman who occasionally mixes with the Lincoln fans when we've been away from home.

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                          Yes, the phrase "as a bloc" is still in there and is blatantly false.

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                            If the Premier League clubs want to reduce it to 18 and the league overall to 90 teams how about the bottom two of this years EPL get relegated directly to the National League?

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                              https://twitter.com/timessport/status/1316373232505819137

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                                Interesting how so many newspapers just publish others' PR puffs and don't do any actual journalism at all.

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                                  Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                  Yes, the phrase "as a bloc" is still in there and is blatantly false.
                                  Indeed - the tweet is deliberately misleading. The story, after four corrections, was less untrue than it had been but still not accurate.

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                                    Nice photo of a couple of minicab drivers having a chinwag there.

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                                      I've written to the sports desk and the readers' editor or whatever it's called on that tweet, the remaining claim of "agreement" in the story, the framing of the story on the sport front page, the general tone of guardian coverage, and the fact that they've had to have five goes at this story, each time weakening the claims because they just weren't true. Now they aren't even claiming unanimity among championship clubs.

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                                        Originally posted by Tratorello View Post
                                        If the Premier League clubs want to reduce it to 18 and the league overall to 90 teams how about the bottom two of this years EPL get relegated directly to the National League?
                                        only if all 72 clubs make it to the end of the season.

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                                          Shareholders agree to work together on a plan for future structures and financing of English football

                                          All 20 Premier League clubs today unanimously agreed that "Project Big Picture" will not be endorsed or pursued by the Premier League, or The FA.

                                          Further, Premier League Shareholders agreed to work together as a 20-club collective on a strategic plan for the future structures and financing of English football, consulting with all stakeholders to ensure a vibrant, competitive and sustainable football pyramid.

                                          Open and transparent process

                                          Clubs will work collaboratively, in an open and transparent process, focusing on competition structure, calendar, governance and financial sustainability.

                                          This project has the full support of The FA and will include engagement with all relevant stakeholders including fans, Government and, of course, the EFL.

                                          Rescue package for Leagues One and Two

                                          Also at today's meeting it was agreed to make available a rescue package which aims to ensure that League One and League Two clubs will not go out of business as a result of the financial impact of COVID-19 and be able to complete the 2020/21 season.

                                          League One and League Two clubs rely more heavily on matchday revenue and have fewer resources at their disposal than Championship or Premier League clubs and are therefore more at risk, especially at a time when fans are excluded from attending matches.

                                          This offer will consist of grants and interest-free loans totalling a further ?50million on top of the ?27.2million solidarity payments already advanced to League One and League Two this year, making a total of ?77.2million.

                                          Talks on Championship finances

                                          Discussions will also continue with the EFL regarding Championship clubs’ financial needs. This addresses Government concerns about lower-league clubs' financial fragility.

                                          Football is not the same without attending fans and the football economy is unsustainable without them. The Premier League and all our clubs remain committed to the safe return of fans as soon as possible.

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                                            50 million is rather low.

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                                              Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                              50 million is rather low.
                                              Agreed, though you have to wonder whether even less would have trickled down to the bottom two divisions out of the ?250m proposed from Project Pig Picture.

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                                                Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                                                I would expect the premier league clubs who aren't part of this special group to tell them to fuck off
                                                well it didn't take long. Lets see how long the unpleasantness towards the lower tier clubs stays in the proposal.

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                                                  50.million is more than 1 each, shared evenly. That's plenty.

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                                                    That's if it is shared evenly, it's likely that clubs like Sunderland and Portsmouth might make a grab for a larger proportion.
                                                    1 million would cover lost gate receipts for most of League 2, but ot falls short of what many League 1 clubs make, and that's before you take into account other income sources.

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