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    #76
    Suarez and Diego together is the surest sign ever that Atleti really aren't interested in winning hearts and minds.

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      #77
      Messi is going to be in a funny old mood.

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        #78
        How will he be feeling if we get to Xmas and Suarez is league top scorer?

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          #79
          Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
          How will he be feeling if we get to Xmas and Suarez is league top scorer?
          Vindicated.

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            #80
            Apparently, Suarez was devastating for the twenty odd minutes that he was on for. Plus, Jo?o Felix also had a very good game. And Granada are a decent team too, although maybe they hadn't fully recovered from their Thursday evening Europa League game. This could be atleti's year.

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              #81
              Midweek fixtures this week include a difficult away trip for Barcelona in Vigo (Aspas loves these matches) and this evening's Real Sociedad - Valencia, with the away team passing through one of its almost annual crises, not to mention the chronic problems which have afflicted the club for years.

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                #82
                Valencia win.

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                  #83
                  Betis lose again.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                    Valencia win.
                    Yes, a nice surprise.

                    A very unconvincing 1-0 win at home for Madrid yesterday against Valladolid.

                    Every time I see Sergio Gonzalez, the Valladolid manager, on the touchline I have to google to find out whether it's



                    His touchline attire is always a tad incongruous.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Jon View Post
                      Tony - if you've a penchant for Real Betis and have Amazon Prime, you really should watch Six Dreams. It documents the 2017-18 season and Betis features a lot, particularly Andres Guardado and quite a bit of Setien too.
                      I'm a couple of episodes into this now and it's a very engaging snapshot of the clubs involved and highly recommended for anyone with an interest in La Liga.

                      It's clear that the show's producers are, quite rightly, very empathetic towards Eibar's story of swimming against the tide of financial reality and surviving. Everyone at the club seems worth rooting for. This season's miserable start - one point from four games - makes me instinctively fear for them. This week's game against Elche already had a 'relegation six pointer' feel about it and a wretched 0-1 home defeat may have Eibar's fans fearing the worst.

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                        #86
                        After a wobble Real Betis back on track with an impressive 2-0 away win at improving Valencia.

                        Similarly Rayo Vallecano in Segunda Division bounce back from a heavy defeat last week with a 4-0 thrashing of Malaga. Of course the link between Rayo and erratic form is a long established one.

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                          #87
                          Practically every team this season has shown some kind of erratic form.

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                            #88
                            Rayo Vallecano sign Luca Zidane from Real Madrid.

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                              #89
                              Yes, bless him. He's not going far from him mum and dad. He's been at Madrid since he was about 5 - he's now 22 - but has only played a couple of games in goal for the first team in all of that time. I am really enjoying this super-frugal version of Madrid - no incomings and a shitload of departures although I know this is purely temporary and normal service will be resumed next summer when they spunk 100s of millions on Mbappe.

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                                #90
                                With the reliable Dimitrievski and the promising Morro already at the club Rayo didn't really need a goalkeeper anyway. Luca may not get noticeably more game time than he did at Real Madrid

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                                  #91
                                  Javi Gracia has indicated he wants to step down, but he would be potentially liable for a contract termination fee of three million euros.
                                  Last edited by Sporting; 08-10-2020, 05:52. Reason: Spanglish

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                                    #92
                                    La Liga newcomers Cadiz win at Real Madrid. Great result for them.

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                                      #93
                                      Great performance too. They can could easily have had more, were it not for courtouis who is having a very good season. Ramos went off injured at half time. Possibly precautionary from Zidane, given the clasico is next Saturday.

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                                        #94
                                        Originally posted by Jon View Post
                                        Great performance too. They can could easily have had more, were it not for courtouis who is having a very good season. Ramos went off injured at half time. Possibly precautionary from Zidane, given the clasico is next Saturday.
                                        With Barcelona losing to Getafe today perhaps the big two need to show more respect to other opponents rather than thinking ahead to the clasico.

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                                          #95
                                          Originally posted by Tony C View Post

                                          I'm a couple of episodes into this now and it's a very engaging snapshot of the clubs involved and highly recommended for anyone with an interest in La Liga.

                                          It's clear that the show's producers are, quite rightly, very empathetic towards Eibar's story of swimming against the tide of financial reality and surviving. Everyone at the club seems worth rooting for. This season's miserable start - one point from four games - makes me instinctively fear for them. This week's game against Elche already had a 'relegation six pointer' feel about it and a wretched 0-1 home defeat may have Eibar's fans fearing the worst.
                                          Yes, I have always watched out for Eibar's results since watching that documentary. They'll be fine as long as they can keep their manager. Every season he works miracles and they stay up.

                                          Originally posted by Tony C View Post
                                          With Barcelona losing to Getafe today perhaps the big two need to show more respect to other opponents rather than thinking ahead to the clasico.
                                          Agreed, although I think the Champions League also starts again this week too so maybe Zidane also had that in his mind. The talismanic properties of Ramos to Real Madrid can't be understated. If he doesn't play, we lose. Simple as that.

                                          As to the title race, well we'll see where we are after next weekend but I think Atleti are looking most likely to be the team to challenge the big two. A 0-2 away win at Celta yesterday, Suarez scoring again.

                                          But props to Getafe, Granada and Cadiz who are all above Atleti at the moment. And Villareal who, if they beat Valencia this afternoon (currently 2-1 in their favour) go top of the league.

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                                            #96
                                            Rayo with a fine win in Segunda Division, beating league leaders Espanyol 1-0 with a late goal.

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                                              #97
                                              Rayo following up with a hard earned goalless draw at Oviedo. Apart from one slip up Rayo generally seem tougher and more resilient than in recent seasons. The new coach appears to have put some much needed grit in their diet and it bodes well for the club as this will be a difficult division to get out of.

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                                                #98
                                                Looked at the rayp bench the other day to see if zidane's son was on the bench. Yes he was, as was Bebe, the Portuguese player who spent a few years at man utd.

                                                Anyway, el clasico. It's one all after ten minutes at the nou camp. Valverde first, fati equalised some three minutes later. Two mediocre defences. They'll be more goals in this one.

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                                                  #99
                                                  Mediocre is being generous

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                                                    1-2 Ramos (pen). Langlet tugged Ramos' shirt. Ramos went down like a sack of potatoes. Ref went to the pitch-side screen and then gave the penalty.

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