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Yeah, that was my point - there are no semis for our tier.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 18-11-2020, 21:55.
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Yes. In Tier A, Wales, Czechia, Austria and Hungary replace Bosnia, Sweden, Iceland and Ukraine (assuming they forfeit their game in Switzerland 3-0.) Wales also won't have to play RoI in the next one due to going up.
Hungary went up twice in a row. They were promoted as Tier C runners up in 2018 and Group B winners in 2022.
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Originally posted by Belhaven View PostAnyway, here is Norway's emergency squad for the game against Austria on Wednesday.
Anders Kristiansen, Union Saint-Giloise, Belgium, 0 caps for Norway
Per-Kristian Bratveit, Djurg?rden, Sweden 0 caps
Andreas Vindheim, Sparta Prague, Czech Rep, 0 caps
Jorgen Skjelvik Odense, Denmark, 7 caps
Julian Ryerson, Union Berlin, Germany, 0 caps
Daniel Granli, Aalborg, Denmark, 0 caps
Ruben Gabrielsen, Toulouse, France, 0 caps
Andreas Hanche-Olsen, Gent, Belgium, 0 caps
Tobias Borkeeiet, Brondby, Denmark, 0 caps
Sondre Tronstad, Vitesse, Holland, 0 caps
Fredrik Ulvestad, Djurgarden, Sweden, 7 caps
Hakon Evjen, AZ'67, Holland' 0 caps
Ghayas Zahid, APOEL, Cyprus, 1 cap
Kristoffer Askildsen, Sampdoria, Italy, 0 caps
Kristian Thorstvedt, Genk, Belgium, 0 caps
Mats Moller Daehli, Genk, Belgium, 23 caps
Jorgen Strand Larsen, Groningen, Holland, 0 caps
Veton Berisha, Viking, Norway, 4 caps
I'm surprised we have that many uncapped players based in Italy, Germany or the Netherlands.
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Originally posted by Ray de Galles View PostYes, the whole point of finishing top of the group is promotion and, in Tier B, the potential to have a WC 2022 play-off place as a fallback if we fail in the qualifying group not having to play Ireland again
I've concluded Wales play better if I watch them on TV, so I'm going to do my bit post-pandemic and not go to any matches.
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostScotland's home draw with Israel in their opener ultimately cost them the group win.
Having Ollie McBurnie anywhere near the team is an even bigger mistake.
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The next version of this competition is played 2 June – 27 September 2022, and these are the teams per tier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E...s_League#Teams
It's not yet clear how it will coordinate with Euro 2024 qualification. Surely they won't give a place to Tier D now that it's only the bottom 7?
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Regrettably I think the last two results are an indication of where Scotland are. But we wouldn’t have wanted to be too overconfident going into the tournament, certainly no danger of that now.Last edited by Mr Beast; 19-11-2020, 11:11. Reason: **New - With added stereotypical pessimism edit**
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Win one of the home games and at least draw the other must be the target. Three points might also be enough but I don't think they'll get a draw at Wembley unless England massively underperform. This isn't Euro 96 or the Euro 2000 playoffs where the gap between the sides is small enough to overcome in a one-off game.
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Originally posted by Mr Beast View PostRegrettably I think the last two results are an indication of where Scotland are. But we wouldn’t have wanted to be too overconfident going into the tournament, certainly no danger of that now.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostSurely a big factor was that 10 of the german players played against Ukraine a couple of days ago, while the spaniards rotated four of their front six, only keeping the two 21 year olds. That looked like a big deal as the spanish were first to every ball. and after that it all went downhill for germany.
Besides, three days between games is hardly uncommon in football. None of those players had played against the Czechs six days earlier aside from Koch and Max, and the rest had hardly over-exerted themselves against Ukraine.
It'd be really interesting to see what Rangnick would do with this team. Or maybe call great uncle Jupp.
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Originally posted by imp View Post
You could maybe cite that in a poor performance leading to a 1-0 or 2-0 defeat. This was something completely different - a collective capitulation so catastrophic that you have to think there was some other reason behind it. Like the team made a pact to get Loew fired. Honestly, I've reffed youth games that ended 16-0 that were less one-sided than this. If Spain had shown less mercy it could have been ten-nothing.
Besides, three days between games is hardly uncommon in football. None of those players had played against the Czechs six days earlier aside from Koch and Max, and the rest had hardly over-exerted themselves against Ukraine.
It'd be really interesting to see what Rangnick would do with this team. Or maybe call great uncle Jupp.
So if you have a situation where you have two teams that are basically trying to play that way, and one of them for whatever reason, can't make it work, it could theoretically end up any score, as long as that score was really high in the favour of one team. This isn't like the old days where if things really weren't going well that you'd curl up into a ball and keep the score down, and even if they tried it probably wouldn't work. There are plenty of reasons to think that spain might have beaten germany on their best day anyway, but people have to start getting used to what this sort of thing looks like when it goes really badly wrong.
But if people want to use it to push out Low, then fair enough. It's clear that only a crowbar and a thermonuclear device will get him out of that job. But this is always going to be on the cards for anyone who replaces him from time to time.
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The latest "controversy" is that Kenny reportedly showed a 3-minute anti-English/Irish history video to the Irish squad before the England game - which, even if true, is nothing worse than happened during the Charlton era.
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