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    You've read my mind.

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      Guardiola is such a bellend. He was a proper slapped arse in the post-match interview.

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        Fulham aiming for Derby's record on current evidence.

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          Originally posted by caja-dglh View Post

          All this relegation stuff is a bizarre new concept to them.
          So they dont value tradition then?

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            Tuanzebe keeps Neymar and Mbappe relatively quiet on Tuesday, so of course, he's dropped today, and Telles doesn't even make the bench?

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              It's been hammering down rain all game, and the pitch is like a skating rink, and everyone is playing with the gay abandon of two teams that know that if they slip and it leads to a goal, and they lose, then they're going to have to spend the week in Stocks, having people throwing rotten offal at them and calling them a paedophile.

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                Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                It's been hammering down rain all game, and the pitch is like a skating rink, and everyone is playing with the gay abandon of two teams that know that if they slip and it leads to a goal, and they lose, then they're going to have to spend the week in Stocks, having people throwing rotten offal at them and calling them a paedophile.
                It's not even that entertaining. This is the first time in my life I've ever wondered if you can get heroin through Deliveroo.

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                  The driver might drown.

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                    And Sheffield United go ahead after a VAR pen.

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                      The Blades certainly on top now.

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                        Should have been two by Osbourne.

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                          Firmino levels after Mane misses a sitter.

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                            Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                            Tuanzebe keeps Neymar and Mbappe relatively quiet on Tuesday, so of course, he's dropped today, and Telles doesn't even make the bench?
                            That one I can understand. But van der Bleek sitting on the bench again, and remaining there when (the admittedly magnificent) McTominay went off... he must be wondering what past sins he is being punished for. When he came on against Newcastle, Man Utd turned the game.

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                              Originally posted by ale View Post

                              So they dont value tradition then?
                              To be perfectly honest, I don't care.

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                                Definitely a penalty for Liverpool there, but Jesus wept, that Salah’s a theatrical so-and-so.

                                West Ham a shade unlucky to be pegged back.

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                                  Originally posted by Jah Womble View Post
                                  Definitely a penalty for Liverpool there, but Jesus wept, that Salah’s a theatrical so-and-so.
                                  Having now seen this on MOTD I concur. Not sure a tap on the foot was quite the career ending injury he made it look like.

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                                    I've not seen it, but would he have got the decision without the exaggeration? If we are saying it's a foul, then he should - but being realistic players 'ride' foul challenges and are effectively punished for their 'honesty' (not actually honesty as it's more a neutral reaction to stay standing up if you can!) by not getting the free-kick/penalty.

                                    If we were to get away from the idea that a penalty needs a 'heavy' foul, rather just any minor foul in the penalty box, that would be a significant step to eliminating diving/play-acting. And also the industrial quantities of cheating that defenders engage in near their own goal. At the moment we have a system of perverse rewards going on.

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                                      I'm sure TAB will be along soon to re-state that a foul is a foul, no matter the reaction of the fouled player.
                                      Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 01-11-2020, 00:03.

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                                        It is rogin. That was a definite penalty, given away through unadulterated, unnecessary clumsiness.

                                        Originally posted by Jah Womble View Post
                                        Definitely a penalty for Liverpool there, but Jesus wept, that Salah’s a theatrical so-and-so.

                                        West Ham a shade unlucky to be pegged back.
                                        The scream was a bit much.

                                        Souness afterwards was amazing, combining his fervent beliefs in gammon manliness, with faux neutrality, by saying he thought it wasn't a penatly because of the reaction, seemingly unaware that the reaction is irrelevant, and all that mattered was masuaku's clumsiness. Poor micah richards is just sitting there, patiently letting him talk, and talk, and talk, before interjecting "Yes but masuaku doesn't have to do that there, and by kicking salah he makes up the referees mind for him." Souness looked at him like he'd just run over his dog.

                                        Then Souness started to get moist when talking about natural goalscorers. He was purring about the effects of having a player who scores goals, and how liverpool needed to get rid of firmino and replace him with jota because jota has scored in the last three games. after a while you start to suspect that there's a reason (other than being 67) why souness isn't a manager any more .

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                                          Sure, award the penalty where justified, but an exaggeration of the foul is ‘still’ simulation - so let’s be carding that, as well.

                                          If there’s initial confusion then I can’t imagine that’d last very long.

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                                            A dive is a dive, whether there was a foul or not, absolutely JW.

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                                              A friend tells me that Chelsea's win at Turf Moor yesterday was the first time in "PL history" that more than one of a team's scorers had a surname beginning with the letter Z.

                                              Huge if true.

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                                                Jason Dozzell once scored twice for us at Man City.

                                                That’s at least four. Or something.

                                                Edit: Ah, has to begin with ‘Z’, you say? Don’t think Romeo Zondervan was still playing when the PL began, was he?

                                                Edit #2: He left just as it began, apparently. (Anyway, not much to see here.)
                                                Last edited by Jah Womble; 01-11-2020, 14:58.

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                                                  There can't have been that many Zs full stop. Zola, Zamora ...

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                                                    Zenden, Ziege ..

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