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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Awkward for teams left in the FA Trophy in that tier. Do they forfeit or keep paying players?

    Good article here by Southport manager Liam Watson

    https://nonleaguedaily.com/no-care-i...its-on-season/
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; Today, 15:39.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    National Leagues North and South have been suspended "for two weeks" but I would imagine actually for the foreseeable future.

    The National League carries on...for now.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    It took a long time for that first package to be agreed and the clubs were just relieved to get the three months at the time. The failure to anticipate a winter worsening was just ostrich behaviour because you'd have had to be wildly optimistic to think a third wave in January was unlikely.
    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; Yesterday, 22:23.

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  • ursus arctos
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    I'm sure it did, and that the decision to kick that particular can down the road was deliberate

    The same dynamic played out in fall/winter sports here

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  • Artificial Hipster
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    Clearly there wasn't a formal agreement as it would've been produced long before now. I can't believe the subject didn't come up before the season began though.

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  • Ray de Galles
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    It wouldn't surprise me if there was no formal agreement about what would happen beyond the first three months because nobody in the discussions envisaged the situation with Covid being worse in January than it was in the autumn.

    After all, it was as recently as early December (immediately post-Lockdown II) when crowds started being let back in to clubs at the National League levels for the first time since March.

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  • Artificial Hipster
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    More than a presumption as far as the clubs are concerned. "Quite simply 66 clubs would not have willingly participated in any footballing competition which initiated playing contracts, without assurances."

    [URL="https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1352330210704826371"]Ollie Bayliss on Twitter: ""We are calling for the immediate suspension of the league competition to allow the National League, FA and the DCMS time to find a solution that is acceptable to all." 12 National League North clubs have published the following statement: https://t.co/cFZPXgYQNM" / Twitter[/URL]

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  • Ray de Galles
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    I think the issue with NL funding is that there were grants but they were only for the first three months of the season. Clearly there was a presumption at some level that crowds would be coming back after that period or that funding in the form of grants would be extended. It's where that presumption was made is the core of the matter.

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  • Artificial Hipster
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    The grants to the National League will now be loans:

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55710617
    Things are really coming to a head now. Slough, Havant & Waterlooville and Concord are the first 3 National League clubs to say they won't play on Saturday. Presumably (and for the sake of solidarity, hopefully) more will follow. What I struggle to understand is how this supposed misunderstanding about whether the money offered to the league was to be in the form of a loan or a grant arose in the first place. Wouldn't there have been some sort of written agreement?

    Meanwhile clubs at steps 3-6 have until tomorrow to respond to a survey about how to decide the season with the FA having announced in the meantime that fixtures can't resume until all clubs are allowed to admit spectators at the levels previously allowed in tier 2 and have access to secondary income streams i.e. bars. Surely that'll be season over then.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    The grants to the National League will now be loans:

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55710617

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  • Toby Gymshorts
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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
    Fucking hell stop football.

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  • Eggchaser
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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
    Fucking hell stop football.
    But then we'd lose The Squad's late Sunday morning bantz about their Fantasy Football teams! What kind of monster are you?

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    A big name coach maybe - such as a former England player or boss?

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    What would it need for the season to stop - a death?
    Multiple, of fit and young adults.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    What would it need for the season to stop - a death?

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  • Patrick Thistle
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    Shrewsbury boss Steve Cotterill spent the weekend in ICU with Covid.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    Altrincham had to forfeit their FA Trophy 4th Round tie due to COVID, which seems harsh given that the next round is not until 6th February.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Originally posted by fatbear View Post

    I doubt the EU is capable of making such a decision. It needs leadership from a couple of the major countries eg Germany and Italy or Spain to for force such a decision ?
    The EU has no competency to do any such thing. Outside of the Daily Mail, it doesn't have power outside of what nation states have expressly given it.

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    The FA Trophy is being played across today and Tuesday and seems COVID-free AFAIK but the Vase is in limbo after last Saturday's round was postponed indefinitely. This reflects the fact that the Trophy, but not the Vase, has elite status.

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  • fatbear
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    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    I think the EU should make it clear that no cross-border football will take place until, say, Easter, which would then free up European club and WC qualifying dates for delayed domestic games.* We are surely back where we were in March 2020 in terms of football not being viable for a couple of months, and everything needs pushing back to reflect that. Play the March 2021 WCQs in March 2022. Scrap the next fucking Nations League if necessary, and obviously all friendlies (I'm still gobsmacked that they played them last Autumn).

    *It should not be left to UEFA and FIFA.
    I doubt the EU is capable of making such a decision. It needs leadership from a couple of the major countries eg Germany and Italy or Spain to for force such a decision ?

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  • Satchmo Distel
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    I think the EU should make it clear that no cross-border football will take place until, say, Easter, which would then free up European club and WC qualifying dates for delayed domestic games.* We are surely back where we were in March 2020 in terms of football not being viable for a couple of months, and everything needs pushing back to reflect that. Play the March 2021 WCQs in March 2022. Scrap the next fucking Nations League if necessary, and obviously all friendlies (I'm still gobsmacked that they played them last Autumn).

    *It should not be left to UEFA and FIFA.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Fucking hell stop football.

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  • Third rate Leszno
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    Carlisle have announced an outbreak and have had to call their next three games off and close everything down. Think the increased testing that the EFL have instigated is going to produce quite a few more of these scenarios.

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  • Snake Plissken
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    Villa vs Everton is off.

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  • Patrick Thistle
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    A sensible governing body would be petitioning uefa/fifa to cancel those internationals now.

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