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    I assume that's one of the issues the Step 3/4 Leagues are alluding to in their press release.

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      National League seeking to end the season apparently

      https://twitter.com/NonLeaguePaper/status/1242795609855266816?s=19

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        Talking of postponing fixtures (rather than cancelling) and ending the season appears a little contradictory. Though the latter seems to be about players contractual situation, presumably to stop paying them at all/in full and/or move them on to the governments furlough scheme.

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          Non-league football: 'No decision yet' on ending season, FA says

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            Clive Allen has apparently tested positive for coronavirus.

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              Barrow manager Ian Evatt, in that article RdG links to above:

              "If you were to play a 90-minute football match and something was to happen in the last 15 minutes of a game, the result would stand if it was abandoned. So why is it not the same for a full season?" he said.
              No it wouldn't Ian, the match would be replayed from scratch.

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                It's sacrilegious but in a good cause

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                  Do the lions look like that because they're infected?

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                    I thought they were eating hot dogs.

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                      Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
                      Do the lions look like that because they're infected?
                      Fuck sake they're loggerheads not lions. But yeah they always look like that. Which is why they're practicing social distancing!!

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                        Mike Ashley acting the cunt over the Coronavirus? Surely not? ;

                        Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley has been criticised by fans after a number of supporters were charged for their next season ticket, despite the ongoing suspension to the Premier League.

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                          Originally posted by longeared View Post
                          Barrow manager Ian Evatt, in that article RdG links to above:

                          "If you were to play a 90-minute football match and something was to happen in the last 15 minutes of a game, the result would stand if it was abandoned. So why is it not the same for a full season?" he said.
                          No it wouldn't Ian, the match would be replayed from scratch.
                          Actually, some times it does stand. The application is inconsistent. To wind back many years, I remember a second tier play-off semi between Newcastle and Sunderland being abandoned a few minutes from time when Newcastle supporters invaded the pitch in any attempt to get the game called off and replayed. The Football League declared the score that stood with a few minutes to play as the final result. And more recently, Blackpool's fans invaded the pitch to get a game against Huddersfield abandoned in protests against the Oystons running of their club. The score was 0-0 at the time (just into the second half) - and the result was officially recorded as 0-0 as well. See also the Battle of Brammall Lane, which was recorded as a 3-0 win to West Brom, the score at the time the ref had to abandon play because Sheffield United were down to 6 players.
                          According to FIFA's rules calls such as this is are at the discretion of the competition the match takes place in. And the Football League's rules give it the power to chose what happens when a game is abandoned; be that a full replay, a replay of the remaining time from the score at the cesseation, or declaring the match a completed fixture as is. The Premier League has similar powers to declare a match as done.

                          Evatt is clearly wrong that this is what automatically happens once a game has passed 75 minutes, though. It's another 'rule' that someone has made up in their own mind and then convinced themselves is the reality.

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                            As I noted a few days ago, when a club is shut down for financial reasons, its results are retained in the league table if 75% of fixtures have been played. The FA could use that as cover to simply recognize league tables as final if that were the wishes of a league. There is zero chance of the Conference resuming before August and, even if if did, there are numerous players out of contract.

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                              All football in England below the three divisions that make up the National League will end immediately and all results will be expunged.

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                                Wow. That's harsh on the two teams that had already gained promotion this season.

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                                  It does seems unfair not to enact promotion and relegation based on a points-per-game table. I presume a factor in not doing so is an imbalance in the amount of home and away games played across a division, possibly exacerbated by some clubs losing lots of home games due to bad weather.

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                                    Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                                    Wow. That's harsh on the two teams that had already gained promotion this season.
                                    Who was already promoted?

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                                      Jersey and Vauxhall Motors, according to the article Ray linked to.

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                                        The problem with honouring promotions already mathematically assured is that it tends to be a one up, one down scenario. And sides in the Divisions above won't be neccesarily be in the same boat with relegated. It also does nothing for a side like South Shields, whose chairman is kicking off. Whilst it's implausible they would be caught, it isn't impossible. The FA has to make a judgement really and be consistent; either the season is done as it stands, or the season is abandoned and doesn't count. They can't give different outcomes to different clubs and be seen to be acting fairly.

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                                          Jersey "Bulls" had won all 27 games and were 20 points clear. It wouldn't surprise me if they get co-opted in to the CCL Premier anyway, I can see more than one club currently in that league going bust after all this.

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                                            Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
                                            Jersey "Bulls"
                                            Maybe relegate them to oblivion for the name?

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                                              Better than Royals, surely?

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                                                Worth noting that Vauxhall Motors only got mathematically promoted because the North West Counties decided to play on that Saturday when many leagues had already stopped (how long ago that seems now)

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                                                  They could probably have constructed a fair formula: e.g. average points per home game plus average points per away game. If two teams are still very close together after that, neither goes up/down. If there's an uneven balance between promoted and relegated clubs, play with uneven numbers for a season then correct it in the ups and downs at the end of next season.

                                                  But as Ray says, some clubs are going to go bust or decide they need to drop down the pyramid to survive anyway. Will all the National League clubs survive at that level? Seems unlikely.

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