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    #76
    I think it's fair to say that WSC's most memorable covers have been the ones that have been "political" in some sense. The post Hillsborough covers, and Pele saying "who is Ron Noades anyway?" . The sort of topical premier league Private-Eye-ish gags don't work half as well

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      #77
      Hope all are well, just dropping by to say I’ve signed up for the patreon and am renewing my lapsed magazine subscription Only saw this afternoon on twitter that WSC is in a bit of trouble, really concerned to read that. In a rational world, WSC magazine and podcast would be the world’s most popular football choice. We don’t live in a sane world, hence we need to band together as best we can. The best of luck to WSC and happy to help out in my small financial way. Cheers.

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        #78
        Ah, good on you

        Be well yourself. You are very much missed.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Walt Flanagans Dog View Post
          I haven't opened this month's yet but looking at the cover made me think of the challenge the print mag has - every month the cover picture and gag relates to "Big" (and mostly English) football", but the content is mostly everything but - lower league, non league, international. I can see though that putting Bury or Haringey (as examples of big stories outside of the Prem, with wider implications for the game) on the cover would be seen as commercially problematic, but not sure sticking a weak gag about Arsenal on the front is reflecting what's in the mag, nor what the readership are interested in. Don't know the answer really - and I'm sure it's all a drop in the ocean compared to the wider decline of print media - just putting it out there.
          A problem WSC addressed brilliantly with the cover "Ryan Giggs - is he being used to sell magazines?" while there was not one single mention of him anywhere else in the issue.

          It's a real shame about Kickaround - I had subscribed to this for my 7-year old son, and recently received an email explaining it shutting down and asking how I wanted my £12 overpayment refunding. I haven't responded, as I don't need/want it back. I really hope WSC itself doesn't go the same way.

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            #80
            Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
            I think it's fair to say that WSC's most memorable covers have been the ones that have been "political" in some sense. The post Hillsborough covers, and Pele saying "who is Ron Noades anyway?" . The sort of topical premier league Private-Eye-ish gags don't work half as well
            These were the very ones I had in mind as I typed that.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Walt Flanagans Dog View Post
              I haven't opened this month's yet but looking at the cover made me think of the challenge the print mag has - every month the cover picture and gag relates to "Big" (and mostly English) football", but the content is mostly everything but - lower league, non league, international. I can see though that putting Bury or Haringey (as examples of big stories outside of the Prem, with wider implications for the game) on the cover would be seen as commercially problematic, but not sure sticking a weak gag about Arsenal on the front is reflecting what's in the mag, nor what the readership are interested in. Don't know the answer really - and I'm sure it's all a drop in the ocean compared to the wider decline of print media - just putting it out there.

              Bury, of course, were on the front cover of the October issue.

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                #82
                Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                Ah, good on you

                Be well yourself. You are very much missed.
                I'm curious; his six previous posts must have been quite something!

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                  #83
                  GdeSC had many more than six. I think that there was a lost log in at some point..

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Sporting View Post

                    I'm curious; his six previous posts must have been quite something!

                    Haha!

                    As UA says there were a lot more than that and they were invariably interesting, well-argued and articulate contributions.

                    Quite frankly he stood out like a sore thumb!

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
                      I think it's fair to say that WSC's most memorable covers have been the ones that have been "political" in some sense. The post Hillsborough covers, and Pele saying "who is Ron Noades anyway?" . The sort of topical premier league Private-Eye-ish gags don't work half as well
                      The Graham Kelly blueprint for football where he's holding the Beano. That still makes me laugh.

                      I seem to paying a higher subscription rate than most of youse, so I feel I'm doing my bit. I almost cancelled it last year - had even told Mrs Thistle I was going to - and then they made the decision to bin off betting adverts and so I decided to continue with my sub.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by andrew7610 View Post
                        A problem WSC addressed brilliantly with the cover "Ryan Giggs - is he being used to sell magazines?" while there was not one single mention of him anywhere else in the issue.

                        It's a real shame about Kickaround - I had subscribed to this for my 7-year old son, and recently received an email explaining it shutting down and asking how I wanted my £12 overpayment refunding. I haven't responded, as I don't need/want it back. I really hope WSC itself doesn't go the same way.
                        Yes, ditto. We loved Kickaround and similarly I'm not going to be asking for a refund.

                        Now, how many of my relatives want a Christmas present from the WSC shop?

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                          #87
                          Just added something via Patreon. Currently 169 have contributed. Doesn't seem that many to me. Not sure how many subscribers WSC print edition has but I'd like to think they could all maybe put a bit in - although of course personal circumstances may not allow.

                          I'd miss WSC if the worst happened.

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                            #88
                            #171

                            I've still got about 9 more yrs of digital "back issues" to get through - want to take my time getting through them all.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Geoffrey de ste Croix View Post
                              Hope all are well, just dropping by to say I’ve signed up for the patreon and am renewing my lapsed magazine subscription Only saw this afternoon on twitter that WSC is in a bit of trouble, really concerned to read that. In a rational world, WSC magazine and podcast would be the world’s most popular football choice. We don’t live in a sane world, hence we need to band together as best we can. The best of luck to WSC and happy to help out in my small financial way. Cheers.
                              All the best to you Geoff, hope you may drop in on us from time to time sir.
                              Last edited by Lang Spoon; 09-11-2019, 02:50.

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                                #90
                                While I've nothing against giving a similar amount to WSC as I do to Nishlord's Chart Music podcast, I'm wondering what happened to the donations for this very messageboard. Am I right I thinking the facility to give up cold hard cash disappeared a few years back? I'd happily give a wee bit of cash each month to OTF as well as the parent WSC site.

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                                  #91
                                  Nice to hear from you Geoffrey - I've not been paying much attention to the Juniors scene, but hope the Bankies are doing well.

                                  Living in Australia, I switched to the digital subscription over a year ago as it was just getting too expensive and was arriving in my letterbox just as everyone in the UK was getting the following month's through theirs. I ordered a subscription to Kickaround for my nephews in Scotland back in June, and it was sad to see they only got to receive one or two issues before it got cancelled.

                                  I'll be right upset if WSC goes the same way as Kickabout so I'll be signing up. Having a Tier 4 subscription on top of the digital subscription will be similar in cost to when I used to subscribe to the print version, but I won't be going any higher as the Aussie dollar is pretty weak at the moment.

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                                    #92
                                    I had also got a Kickaround subscription, this one was for my old primary school in Hayes - I remember thinking at the time that it seemed like a brave move to bring out a new print magazine, it's a huge shame that it didn't prove viable. But, based on the content of the editorial and from seeing how things have developed in print media over the last decade and more, it's probably no surprise that it happened. Definitely don't want to see WSC go the same way, so just signed up on Patreon as well (the numbers are creeping up to over 200 now) and will be passing on the link to see if I can tempt anyone else to chip in.

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                                      #93
                                      Originally posted by Geoffrey de ste Croix View Post
                                      In a rational world, WSC magazine and podcast would be the world’s most popular football choice. We don’t live in a sane world, hence we need to band together as best we can.
                                      I'm not so sure, UA - if they all nailed it like this I think six posts would have been enough to make Geoffrey seriously missed.


                                      Reading previous pages of the thread, apologies if it sounds like we're saying you must help WSC. I've gone a bit on-line chugger here - not good - but GdeSC's post perfectly communicates why WSC is so valuable.

                                      Was reading Stewart Lee's column today (I know - get me, eh), having what's becoming an increasingly familiar feeling - the relief of knowing someone is out there calling all the bullshit, in a true, entertaining fashion, quickly followed by the terrifying realisation that doing so is such a niche sector of the media.

                                      BBC News has a Reality Check feature ffs. A feature. In politics, the BBC now sees facts as anecdotal.

                                      WSC is happy to reduce the Premier League and World Cups to an anecdote - perhaps via a cheeky, flippant front cover - because those enterprises have more than enough media looking after them, and usually in the same manipulative, hysterical fashion which has bled into mainstream politics.

                                      MSM is now about maintaining binary opposition rather than any sense of pulling together for the greater good. What WSC does re football coverage - calming shit down and calling shit out - is good for wider society, and the soul.

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                                        #94
                                        Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                                        Tbh Paul S, after having worked for a FTSE listed betting company in the long long ago, WSC taking money from a Meth Cartel wouldn't be much more problematic. It's an evil industry, from paddy power to the Ray Winstone floaty head cunts it is run by amoral bastards who deserve nothing but a slow painful hideous death. For not much more than minimum wage I spent 1 year doing a customer service phone line job that made me sick to my stomach, made working for Ryanair seem pure.

                                        Anyways, I hope the podcast is a success.
                                        I'd like to hear a podcast by Lang Spoon about his time at a betting company.

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                                          #95
                                          I think a podcast by Lang Spoon would be in breach of just about every Obscenity Law.

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